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Sig spartan. Thought opinions? Personal reviews? Anybody got one?

1911s have been around for over a century, "modern" 1911s that have been mass produced didn't see a huge uptick until the 80s and 90s.

Sig has had a long and storied history with 1911s. They got into the game, thinking they could do everything better and just ignore everything that has been learned. The external extractor and the nonstandard slide profile are just an indication that they want to do things differently.

They have had several spectacular failures, including their first 1911s which were an utter disgrace (even though they had somehow managed to get Caspian to build the frames and slides), Commanders that disintegrated because Sig never learned you can't just cut down a 5" slide to make a 4.25" gun.

Sig makes what looks like a 1911 (sort of) if it had been retro-engineered by someone who didn't realize that the plans are public domain and everyone and their mother makes parts--parts they're not always willing to utilize, either out of arrogance or ignorance. So their 1911s don't always work... they're finicky and confirm the idiotic stereotype that 1911s aren't reliable--which is BS. If you go on the 1911 forums, you'll find that Sig makes A LOT of variants of their guns, so many it's hard to keep track of them all, but they have some pervasive QC issues, as follows:

-tight chamber fit, they can't seem to realize that a "tight match barrel" doesn't mean the gun fails to feed. I personally don't believe in "match barrels," but that's another story
-bad Cerakote jobs
-general FTF, FTRTB, FTE issues that stem from a variety of factors from how the feed ramps are machined, how the barrels are made, that damn external extractor, and that they use a flatwire recoil spring that strangely resembles the one Wilson puts in their guns, but doesn't work as well

For a grand you could have a Sig. Just don't. For a grand here is my advice, I have owned and shot 1911s for over 20 years now... jes sayin...

1991 Series 80 Colt (Commander is a grand, GI model runs 850)
Springer Range Officer 850
Springer Loaded 900-ish
STI Spartan (this is an Armscor Filipino gun made to STI's specs) 675
DW RZ45 1150

Series 80 and 70 are Colt specific, but they have been used to describe 1911s that either have the firing pin block (80) or don't (70). While most 70s do have better triggers, there's really no good reason that with some polishing an 80 can't, either.
 
Series 80 and 70 are Colt specific, but they have been used to describe 1911s that either have the firing pin block (80) or don't (70). While most 70s do have better triggers, there's really no good reason that with some polishing an 80 can't, either.

I have 1911s with and without a firing pin block. I've had trigger jobs done, and the ones with the Series 80 style block are pretty good, but still not quite as good.
 
Look up the RO its hand made on the custom line just like the trp and all the high end springfields. Just the price isn't up there

If it is made by their Custom Shop, then you already know my experience with Springfield.

For a good basic 1911, the Remington R1 is pretty hard to beat.
 
I have 1911s with and without a firing pin block. I've had trigger jobs done, and the ones with the Series 80 style block are pretty good, but still not quite as good.

I agree, but with just some minor polishing and fitting (which not all gunmakers bother to do at the factory) a gun with a firing pin block can have a really good trigger. I just think they get too much of a bad rap.

I have a S80 Commander my wife gave me as a wedding present most people think doesn't have a firing pin stop, it's so smooth. Not Wilson smooth, but better than Springers that come without them for the same price point.
 
I'm no 1911 expert but with what I know, it will be hard for me to buy anything off the shelf that isn't a Kimber. I have had two of them so far and my current one is a Kimber Ultra CDP II Custom. This little pistol rocks! My last one was a desert warrior. That one was a sweet pistol too. The triggers on these 1911's are sweet! They are smooth and crisp. Both pistols are very accurate!

Here's a target from yesterday. The left target was about 50 rounds in it and the right was about 50 rounds as well. The target on the right wasn't that great because I was toying around with different grips on the pistol and different stances while shooting. The left target was my normal stance and grip on the pistol. Distance was 10 yards. I'm definitely not a pro shooter by any means but I'm pretty happy with the accuracy of a my Kimber if I'm able to clean the red ink out of the center of the target.



Maybe I'll get another 1911 but if I do it might be a custom race gun strictly for target shooting.
 
My local dealer has a Wilson CQB in stock right now. I want to take it home so bad, but it's the same price as the new mountain bike I'm looking at. I want the bike more.
 
Shoot an SVI infinity 2011. Life's hard after that. ;)

My buddies 6" 9mm/.40. It's stupid awesome. I hope to put in my down payment after the new year.

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They start at $3000. Most are $4500-6000.

18 month lead time. Every part except the springs are made in house.

I have three (3) S-V Infinity pistols, two (2) Sight Trackers complete with caliber conversions, as well as an older .45 ACP (the fourth is a loaner from Brandon).
I miss their Grand Prairie location, as I don't get out to Millsap as often...
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I have three (3) S-V Infinity pistols, two (2) Sight Trackers complete with caliber conversions, as well as an older .45 ACP (the fourth is a loaner from Brandon).
I miss their Grand Prairie location, as I don't get out to Millsap as often...
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So jealous!

Do you shoot at crossroads out at cresson? Or north texas multigun?

I really want a 9mm/.40 conversion!
 
That's a tough act to follow, but how about a little bit of ghosts of firearms past.

Some S&W M&P and Glock 34 love. Neither platform worked out for me, but they were sexy looking guns.



 
Sight tracker?

The front sight is on the barrel, rather than the slide. Consequently it moves less as the gun cycles so in theory it is easier for you to keep the front sight in focus, and thus may reduce split time. I've never used one so I'm curious whether the potential advantages are realized.

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So jealous!

Do you shoot at crossroads out at cresson? Or north texas multigun?

I really want a 9mm/.40 conversion!

I took a break from competing (last match was July 2012 @ 3MR) but plan to get back into it this year. I have 2 Dillon 1050s which have been sitting new in their unopened boxes for the past 2 years, 22k .40 bullets, 15k 9mm bullet and 8k .45 bullets I need to get loaded...

I plan to get back into multigun and steel plate matches this coming season but first need to get a few new Taccom shotshell holders from Jeremy Moore
 
My local dealer has a Wilson CQB in stock right now. I want to take it home so bad, but it's the same price as the new mountain bike I'm looking at. I want the bike more.

I have a five year old CQB with a bull barrel but no rail.

That gun has close to 30k rounds through it with no problems. It's been refinished twice and I got it a new slide stop and extractor recently, they still worked but at that round count I was beginning to worry they'd break.
 
I have a five year old CQB with a bull barrel but no rail.

That gun has close to 30k rounds through it with no problems. It's been refinished twice and I got it a new slide stop and extractor recently, they still worked but at that round count I was beginning to worry they'd break.

Nice! Yeah I want the standard CQB in all black without a rail. Only thing I would change is I'd get some Hogue Piranha grips for it. One of these days I'll pick one up, but it will probably be a few more years.
 
Nice! Yeah I want the standard CQB in all black without a rail. Only thing I would change is I'd get some Hogue Piranha grips for it. One of these days I'll pick one up, but it will probably be a few more years.

You can always order one the way you want it from Wilson, it'll be done in 2 years' time and you can afford it, then. :laugh:

I have a Professional on order right now.
 
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