Because someone who you disagree with does it too still doesn't make it okay.

This childlike "gotcha" moment people are constantly after is also super lame.

Don't bother. You're engaging someone with the IQ of cement.

Once again i will say, if there had been a few ccw in the crowd he could have been stopped before so many were killed and wounded

Thats an opinion. Theres also the very real possibility that even more could have been killed in a dark, loud, crowded nightclub if more guns were present. No?

Trying to make liberals understand common sense... might as well

Impossible. There's no way that someone who just witnessed the death of multiple individuals would react in a highly emotional way if they had a firearm on them.

But for arguments sake, lets picture this. Gunman opens fire in a crowded nightclub. Multiple patrons are carrying firearms. A few of them pull their guns and now start shooting. Now others pull their guns. Would you say that those people could accurately distinguish who is the initial gunman and who are people potential tying to "help" the situation?

Now police show up and multiple people are now inside shooting. Would that make their position easier or harder to them determine who is the perpetrator?

Common sense? This is from someone who is blaming one single person (that is not the person who committed the act) in a country that is very much not a dictatorship for a mass shooting at a nightclub. Let's not go there with common sense.

And for the record, I am not anti-gun. But I'm also not someone who thinks guns are the answer. Taking away guns is no more effective than adding more guns.

I guess we need to go into more detail for you libs to understand, b/c you are correct... Obama is not the sole reason for this. He's 50%. The other 50% is the religion of Islam.

We have an administration that refuses to accept the threat of Islamic terrorism to the point they will deliberately obscure the facts and play a shell game as to how gun laws and republicans are the causes of the Islamic State's war against the West.

This is the same level of sheer idiocy that brings out the "hug a muslim" (who was later arrested on terror charges) crowd after the Paris attacks, while the blood is still being mopped up in the theater.

We'll get white noise about "assault weapons," islamophobia, Trump's racism while being reminded to take more refugees and how Islam's obviously anti-gay stand has nothing to do with this attack--since Hillary wants to toe the line between apologizing to gays and muslims.

Go play a drinking game with how many times they will blame the right, islamaphobia, "lone wolf", "self-radicalized", Trump, etc.

The left is dancing on the bodies of AMERICANS for political gain while criticizing the right's calls for those same Americans to be able to defend themselves.

Yeah, I'm sorry. No idea where I was confused in thinking you you said it was entirely Obama's fault. I'm dumb.

[QUOTE=On Point;2385935]I guess we need to go into more detail for you libs to understand, b/c you are correct... Obama is not the sole reason for this. He's 50%. The other 50% is the religion of Islam.[/

Less than 4% of mass shootings in America are committed by Muslims.

I really came here to avoid all of this and yet here we are posting to a forum for 4Runners about stuff that has nothing to do with 4rnrs


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I didn't know I was not allowed to revise my original statement. I admitted it was half wrong and corrected it. Sane people have no problem admitting when they're wrong, however liberals do have a problem and that is why they continue voting Democrat.