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I really hate to confuse the issue with the facts but as a former ICE agent I can tell you virtually everything you hear from the media is a lie. The idea that there are only 12 million illegals is a joke; that figure is 20 years old.
Read the actual DOJ stats to learn that 42% of people charged in federal court are not citizens; 32% of all people charged in federal court are from Mexico alone; and 25% of the federal prison population are illegal aliens, and much, much more:
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you mean the mainstream media is lying to us? no way LMAO  I havent watch mainstream media in years...
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01-03-2018, 10:30 PM
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From my understanding they took this sign down today.
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01-04-2018, 12:18 AM
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One study, referenced on a single, heavily biased website is sufficient to make you think the world's 6th largest economy is "a broken 'utopia' with bad debts and bankruptcy" and that you "believe that they have heavy taxation on every damn thing and still under mountains of debt" and is "a dying state under moronic leadership and policies"?
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01-04-2018, 08:02 AM
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One study, referenced on a single, heavily biased website is sufficient to make you think the world's 6th largest economy is "a broken 'utopia' with bad debts and bankruptcy" and that you "believe that they have heavy taxation on every damn thing and still under mountains of debt" and is "a dying state under moronic leadership and policies"?
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So...California is rosy? Cost of living is low? Taxes are low?
https://www.thebalance.com/californi...nation-3193244
I am glad that you love it there. More power to you. Good luck.
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01-04-2018, 08:12 AM
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01-04-2018, 09:51 AM
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One study, referenced on a single, heavily biased website is sufficient to make you think the world's 6th largest economy is "a broken 'utopia' with bad debts and bankruptcy" and that you "believe that they have heavy taxation on every damn thing and still under mountains of debt" and is "a dying state under moronic leadership and policies"?
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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/02/the-...in-the-us.html
https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-w...e-bankrupt/#16 - top bankrupt cities but over half are in Cali
The Top 10 States With Worst Budget Problems - ABC News
It's not difficult finding data points to support Thai's sentiment but as for being the 6th largest economy...that's much more debatable and is heavily skewed by the tech industry in the US largely being based there. People are tired of the liberal bullshit and California continues to champion polarizing issues like sanctuary states. California's economy is an unsustainable bubble just like the housing market in the majority of the US was until 2008. You would think that having crappy houses that cost half a million bucks would be a problem that would resolve itself and it most likely will in time.
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01-04-2018, 10:16 AM
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Do you have sources for any of your claims?
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Yes, People I know that live there!
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01-04-2018, 10:18 AM
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There is a big problem in this country that the politicians can't seem to handle. There are laws that are not followed. Obama was just as bad as Trump at following them. California should lose its Federal funding or go to court to try and keep it. Illegally here is an issue, get in line and follow the proper course of action. If you are caught and deported, go to the back of the line.....How is this even an issue?? The girl shot on the pier never should have happened. Anyone with a job, kids in college, paying ridiculous health care fees ect., ect., ect., should be pissed. If you have no job and pay no taxes then this is a conversation that is not your business.
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01-04-2018, 11:30 AM
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We still have 75 degree weather during Christmas. 
We can go to the mountain for snowboarding and the beach in the same day.
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01-04-2018, 12:31 PM
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We still have 75 degree weather during Christmas.
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This is the reason why normal, non-liberal-wacko people such as myself stay here. The pros outweigh the cons.... at least for now.
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01-04-2018, 12:37 PM
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One study, referenced on a single, heavily biased website is sufficient to make you think the world's 6th largest economy is "a broken 'utopia' with bad debts and bankruptcy" and that you "believe that they have heavy taxation on every damn thing and still under mountains of debt" and is "a dying state under moronic leadership and policies"?
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This is great. Please articulate your view of California's economic and governmental prosperity so we can all better understand what we are clearly missing. Thank you.
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01-04-2018, 02:11 PM
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This is the reason why normal, non-liberal-wacko people such as myself stay here. The pros outweigh the cons.... at least for now.
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That is what my Cal friends say also. Ones that moved to my neck o the woods
consider the move a fare trade off.
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01-05-2018, 05:07 AM
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We still have 75 degree weather during Christmas.
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Well, where I am in Cali the "beach" requires a wetsuit most of the year and snowboarding is in Tahoe. God help you if you leave on a Friday, you'll never make it in one day from the Pacifica to S. Lake Tahoe.
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01-05-2018, 01:39 PM
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I left the Peoples Demokratik Socialist Republic of Kalifornia for good in 2003; Best thing I ever did. 
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