13th Gen Raptor vs. 5th Gen TRD Pro

[METIS]

One of the vehicles I was considering prior to purchasing a 2018 TRD Pro was a 2017 Raptor in crew cab + short bed configuration. Unsurprisingly the Raptor is wider, taller and longer than the T4R. The T4R is a really tight fit in my garage, so the Raptor would definitely not have fit. End of the day, I've been completely happy with the T4R.

Anyways, this post is worthless without pics:

 

[flyboysgt]

13th gen? Both look great. Congrats on the purchase.


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[Lionel_Hutz]

13th gen? Both look great. Congrats on the purchase.


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It's the 2095 model year.

Really like both rides--I hadn't appreciated just how much bigger the Raptor is.

 

[Nickk6]

13th gen? Both look great. Congrats on the purchase.


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I think he means 13th gen F150, Raptor I think is on its 2nd gen.

I wanted a Raptor too, but also glad I ended up in a Toyota.

 

[manganos]

I had quite a few different model and makes in mind when I went to purchase a vehicle.

I started out looking at Tacoma's and got scared by the new engine/trans, then I moved on to the 4Runner....

While looking at the 4Runner I also looked at the BMW X5 but with all of the fishing I do I figured I wouldn't want to take the X5 off road.

This lead me to the Raptor. I almost bought one but the added cost over MSRP ruined it for me. I also had a Focus RS on order at the time so I tried to bundle both the Raptor and RS together which was a no go.....

Back to the 4Runner it was and I got a decent deal on it. Now I'm back in the OH you want the Porsche GT4. Well MSRP is this and we are only asking 15k over MSRP. No thanks.... even used GT4's are going for more then MSRP in my area.

But yeah I'm happy with the 4runner and had to rant at FORD dealers for asking a premium. I guess someone out there is paying it.

 

[Toffees]

There's a lot to like about the Raptor, but a Freudian analysis would suggest Raptor drivers have confidence/image issues. You're ok with the 4R, nice pick.

 

[Magnetic]

One of the vehicles I was considering prior to purchasing a 2018 TRD Pro was a 2017 Raptor in crew cab + short bed configuration.
Unsurprisingly the Raptor is wider, taller and longer than the T4R.
The T4R is a really tight fit in my garage, so the Raptor would definitely not have fit.
End of the day, I've been completely happy with the T4R.

Anyways, this post is worthless without pics:

A raptor would have fit in my garage, but my wife's car would have to go. :

A neighbor of mine has the raptor and he drives it (as well as his 911 & G500) around the neighborhood like he stole it. :lookout:

He parks it sideways in his driveway so he can block the sidewalk with it.



I never really consider a raptor as they are just too huge for my off-road needs...

 

[Sound_SS]

There's a lot to like about the Raptor, but a Freudian analysis would suggest Raptor drivers have confidence/image issues. You're ok with the 4R, nice pick.

kind of like the 4runners i see around town with a snorkel, jerry cans, roof top tent, auxiliary lighting, etc. i assume inside there is a survival pack, snake bite kit and a fire extinguisher fastened with paracord and carabiners. screams image issues........although you can never be too prepared for the applebees parking lot i suppose.

 

[RUNTHAT]

kind of like the 4runners i see around town with a snorkel, jerry cans, roof top tent, auxiliary lighting, etc. i assume inside there is a survival pack, snake bite kit and a fire extinguisher fastened with paracord and carabiners. screams image issues........although you can never be too prepared for the applebees parking lot i suppose.

OH NO YOU DIDN'T! :guitar2:

 

[Toffees]

kind of like the 4runners i see around town with a snorkel, jerry cans, roof top tent, auxiliary lighting, etc. i assume inside there is a survival pack, snake bite kit and a fire extinguisher fastened with paracord and carabiners. screams image issues........although you can never be too prepared for the applebees parking lot i suppose.

Have you seen parking lots at this time of year?

 

[Bumbo]

The Raptor is pretty amazing as far as stock trucks go. As a avid desert goer, I would take that over a 5th Gen, it really is in a different league.

 

[gm350reratliff]

They are really apples to oranges comparing them.

I do like how they look and I applaud Ford for giving auto enthusiasts what they want. I looked at them before I bought my Tundra but I kept reminding myself of the crappy experience my 2012 ecoboost f150 was. I think it’s still too early to see if the 2nd gen raptors will be reliable or not. My f150 was completely unreliable by 40k.

 

[RUNTHAT]

They are really apples to oranges comparing them.

I do like how they look and I applaud Ford for giving auto enthusiasts what they want. I looked at them before I bought my Tundra but I kept reminding myself of the crappy experience my 2012 ecoboost f150 was. I think it’s still too early to see if the 2nd gen raptors will be reliable or not. My f150 was completely unreliable by 40k.

Yuppers, still too early to gauge reliability of the 2nd gen Raptor.
Maybe as unreliable as KDSS? :couch2:

 

[shrub1]

Will be interested to see if the Bronco ends up being offered in a Raptor package.

 

[Toffees]

They are really apples to oranges comparing them.

I do like how they look and I applaud Ford for giving auto enthusiasts what they want. I looked at them before I bought my Tundra but I kept reminding myself of the crappy experience my 2012 ecoboost f150 was. I think it’s still too early to see if the 2nd gen raptors will be reliable or not. My f150 was completely unreliable by 40k.

SVT always puts out impressive vehicles. I drooled over the 1st Lightning when I was a kid.

Whether they're necessary is another issue.

 

[Bumbo]

They are really apples to oranges comparing them.

I do like how they look and I applaud Ford for giving auto enthusiasts what they want. I looked at them before I bought my Tundra but I kept reminding myself of the crappy experience my 2012 ecoboost f150 was. I think it’s still too early to see if the 2nd gen raptors will be reliable or not. My f150 was completely unreliable by 40k.

Considering my brother is the Ford guy in the family, we have had countless debates about this sort of thing...

End of the day, it can still serve the same functions as a 4Runner, even as a road worthy daily driver. Most trucks built like that after market would not be as road friendly...

While I agree that it is apples and oranges, the gap is a lot smaller than one might think.

I am not even a Ford fan, I own a Silverado, Acura, and a Toyota... but with the Focus RS, Raptor, and other stuff they make at an enthusiast level, Ill tell you I started to warm up to the idea of buying my first Ford.

If most people are honest with themselves, 4Runner vs Raptor, I think it would be a conversation about cost.

Just my 2 cents, and from the perspective of someone who spends 90% of their time off-road in the desert. It's a truck I would love to own.

 

[Sound_SS]

Have you seen parking lots at this time of year?

i have. and here in the pacific northwest it can be hard to tell if i made it to the grocery store or ended up at the overland expo with all the jeeps and 4runners that look like they are prepped for end of the world scenarios

 

[Toffees]

i have. and here in the pacific northwest it can be hard to tell if i made it to the grocery store or ended up at the overland expo with all the jeeps and 4runners that look like they are prepped for end of the world scenarios

ZORT? Between them and COD Jeep guys, I figure I can wait until the second wave because the first responders will be on the scene.

 

[phillyd2]

kind of like the 4runners i see around town with a snorkel, jerry cans, roof top tent, auxiliary lighting, etc. i assume inside there is a survival pack, snake bite kit and a fire extinguisher fastened with paracord and carabiners. screams image issues........although you can never be too prepared for the applebees parking lot i suppose.

i have. and here in the pacific northwest it can be hard to tell if i made it to the grocery store or ended up at the overland expo with all the jeeps and 4runners that look like they are prepped for end of the world scenarios

And what did these less than worthy posers say when you confronted them with their fakery?

 

[jordanrb81]

so wouldn't the Raptor be direct competition with the RAM Power Wagon? When I considered the 4Runner the only other options I really looked at was the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited and the Grand Cherokee Trail Hawk, or a used Land Rover, in the end I figured reliability may be important, after that the choice was clear. the Raptor and the Power Wagon are both BEASTS off road as far as full size trucks go, however some say their approach and departure angles as well as turning radius is a liability.. I can think of a few places in and around Moab that could prove that point pretty easily.