2016 Taco

How's the road noise (wind and road)?? Quieter than 4runner?

I don't know if I can say it's quieter than the 5th gen, but I'd say it's at least on par. The cab was comfortably quiet and insulated when test driving it. I was impressed as you could hear a good difference in sound as you closed the door and "sealed' the vehicle, vs. having a window down or the door open. Not quite Lexus status, but it does sound like they did a bit better with sound deadening vs. the previous generation.
 
You guys think the 2017 4Runner will be similar to the redisgned tacoma?

Define similar?

The body won't be similar. But the frame will absolutely be similar. I expect that the 2017 4Runner's drivetrain will be similar to the 3rd gen Taco -- 6-speed automatic, and an atkinson V6, possibly larger than the 3.5, possibly not.
 
@thai

excuse the random train of thoughts, I am just writing as each item comes to mind ...

overall its a lot quieter than my 2014 4runner LE with oem rims/tires.

now granted my LE has body mounts squeaks since about 6-9 months into ownership, which I've lived with (most of the time its noticeable when slowly going over bumps).

soaks up bumps a lot better than the 4runner.

entune is a hell of lot snappier, most common customer customizations can be done in the head unit app (drivers settings), door locks, lights as an example.

seat belt chime still is techstream though.

wind noise doing 70-75 is still there but a lot more muted than our 2012 Tacoma, engine noise is more muted. this may be due to better insulation/sound deadening and thicker glass than our 2012.

placement of control are not necessarily better, just tweaked. I hate the location of the start button and 4wd knob. (btw push to start is standard on trd models and up)

interior materials are better, less hard plastic (but its not gone).

JBL sound system is a tad better, but downside, 2/3 passenger side rear storage is taken up by the sub.

tailgate hydraulic lowering (how they did this implementing it via mechanical is very nice).

tailgate thickness is something I have to get use to when closing, use to the 2012 thinness.

from what I have heard, a lot of the 2015 mods work on the 2016, supposedly same mount points (sliders, lift kits, etc... verify as I am not 100% sure on what does/doesn't fit as plug and play)

metal-tech and toyotec have concept bumpers already fabbed on the new front end. toyotec even has demo lifted and fitted with 33" already with a bumpter.

arb has a teaser pic of a bumper that looks like a 2015 but slimmer.

looks like rims are the same as the 2nd gens 4.5/5.5 backspace with 25 or 30mm offset on 6x5.5 139.7 pcd

different rim sizes 16/17/18, 17 on sports / 18 on limiteds, 16 on all the rest. (edit : 17 came with firestone dest. LE2, off road 16 came with wranglers)

aftermarket covers will not fit from 2nd gens, that thicker tailgate screws up everything.

oem 3 piece hard cover is nice if you need one now and want to use in conjunction with the locking tailgate. ive seen on a limited, glad I skipped it and waiting for an access original roll up cover. (edit : be mindful as the side rails have lock pins sticking out. the bed rail system would have to be swapped out for a non oem tri-fold bed rail cover)

seats are the same as the 2nd gens, just a tad better overall but no big improvement.

head room will be an issue for those that are long in the torso compared to long in the legs.

moonroof comes as standard depending on the factory options so be mindful.

those are my impressions from when the warden actually lets me drive it (on the 2012 she would make me drive when we went out, now she wont let me at all).

edit : forgot to add, the 4runner PTS fob will not work on the 2016 Tacoma PTS. tried and it will not learn the 4runner fob either using the new procedure or the classic procedure.

was hoping I would only have to carry 1 fob for both vehicles.
 
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My opinion after driving one:

The Limited should be called a premium or maybe just SR5. It's not as nice inside as a premium 4runner, not even close to a limited. It's missing a lot of features a Corolla has. I was honestly kinda shocked that the limited lacked power seats. It's kinda like getting into a BMW and finding out that it still has a manual seat lever under the front. Not what you're expecting. A direct swap from a 4runner would be a nice upgrade. Not sure why Toyota didn't use the 4runner or 150 as a platform for the new tacoma. Would have offered lots of interesting features that you can't get on a Taco - like KDSS for example. And better seating options.

OEM tires are much better than the 4runner. Good choice there.

I like the wireless charging.

Rear axle is something new. Not sure exactly what's inside yet, but I like that they've moved to an internal e-locker. Makes swapping stuff around much easier. I also like that it appears the rear wheel bearings are a unit bearing that bolts in. That will save a lot of PITA when it's due for a change out. Drums?!?! of course we were all surprised by that one.

I like the hand brake location. Right in the ideal spot.

Could use a lower diff gear ratio with the extra cog on the 6 speed. My RX350 has the same transmission ratio and 3.5L engine (minus atkinson - but dual vvti same power). It has 4.39:1 diffs and about 26" tall tires. Feels WAY more powerful, even if it's not actually more powerful. 4:30 gears would do wonders for the new taco. I don't see much mpg difference since 6th gear is all but unused most of the time even on the highway.

Side steps are bolted to the body - so they're just nerf bars even though they look strong.

Didn't get a chance to see what kind of clearance there is for a hidden winch. Probably just like the last model.
 
The more I see these in person the more I like them. I wasn't a fan at the initial release, but that one from Toytec looks pretty good. I still don't like that air dam they come with up front, and I don't care much for the stock grille, but those are both changed easily.
 
The more I see these in person the more I like them. I wasn't a fan at the initial release, but that one from Toytec looks pretty good. I still don't like that air dam they come with up front, and I don't care much for the stock grille, but those are both changed easily.

air dam is installed on all models except the off road.

only has 8-10 bolts holding it on that are very easy to take off.
 
My opinion after driving one:

The Limited should be called a premium or maybe just SR5. It's not as nice inside as a premium 4runner, not even close to a limited. It's missing a lot of features a Corolla has. I was honestly kinda shocked that the limited lacked power seats. It's kinda like getting into a BMW and finding out that it still has a manual seat lever under the front. Not what you're expecting. A direct swap from a 4runner would be a nice upgrade. Not sure why Toyota didn't use the 4runner or 150 as a platform for the new tacoma. Would have offered lots of interesting features that you can't get on a Taco - like KDSS for example. And better seating options.

OEM tires are much better than the 4runner. Good choice there.

I like the wireless charging.

Rear axle is something new. Not sure exactly what's inside yet, but I like that they've moved to an internal e-locker. Makes swapping stuff around much easier. I also like that it appears the rear wheel bearings are a unit bearing that bolts in. That will save a lot of PITA when it's due for a change out. Drums?!?! of course we were all surprised by that one.

I like the hand brake location. Right in the ideal spot.

Could use a lower diff gear ratio with the extra cog on the 6 speed. My RX350 has the same transmission ratio and 3.5L engine (minus atkinson - but dual vvti same power). It has 4.39:1 diffs and about 26" tall tires. Feels WAY more powerful, even if it's not actually more powerful. 4:30 gears would do wonders for the new taco. I don't see much mpg difference since 6th gear is all but unused most of the time even on the highway.

Side steps are bolted to the body - so they're just nerf bars even though they look strong.

Didn't get a chance to see what kind of clearance there is for a hidden winch. Probably just like the last model.

Well as far as I can tell the 3rd Gen Tacoma is based on the same frame (modified J150 platform) that the Gen 2.5 Tacoma is built on. The only difference between the 2016 and the 2014 I looked at was that the second body mount just behind the front axle are now wider and beefier.
 
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air dam is installed on all models except the off road.

only has 8-10 bolts holding it on that are very easy to take off.

That's what I figured. I haven't seen an off-road come through our dealer yet, only sports and SR5's so far.
 
RTT installed on one


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I think the current 4runner front end looks way better and more aggressive than the new Tacoma. Hopefully they don't adopt it for the next gen.
 
I think the current 4runner front end looks way better and more aggressive than the new Tacoma. Hopefully they don't adopt it for the next gen.

I hate the current 4Runner front end. Particularly the Trail Edition. It's hideous. Aggressive doesn't have to be ugly.
 
I think the current 4runner front end looks way better and more aggressive than the new Tacoma. Hopefully they don't adopt it for the next gen.

I get a lot of positive comments on my 2015 , that it looks agressive and mean . A mans truck my girlfriend said. I like the new taco also , it's just different than the 4Runner not better or worse.
 

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