TRD PRO 57
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Hello I want to know a good oil and fuel additive for my 4Runner. Also would adding any additive void any warranty's?
2017 4Runner TRD Pro oil & fuel additives
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This will devolve quickly if you want to be safe, use a synthetic oil with the appropriate certifications and weight. Use top tier filter - Fram Ultra, M1, Amsoil
Fuel adds you can go a few different ways, not really needed. In order of easiest to do/get:
- Use name brand fuel in recommended grade
- Use top tier fuel in recommended grade
- Techron concentrate every oil change
- Fuel Power Plus from Lube Control (mail order only)
Fuel adds you can go a few different ways, not really needed. In order of easiest to do/get:
- Use name brand fuel in recommended grade
- Use top tier fuel in recommended grade
- Techron concentrate every oil change
- Fuel Power Plus from Lube Control (mail order only)
EJs16
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Look up BG products. They work great and have awesome coverage as far as warranty goes even above what toyota will give you. I'm a wrench by trade and have a 100k warranty on mine but use their additives when they recommend, if anything happens to it and yota doesn't cover they cover.
There are lots of options but I use BG in the shop and on my own cars because ive seen it work.
There are lots of options but I use BG in the shop and on my own cars because ive seen it work.
BlackWorksInc
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Not sure what you want additives for?
But I used BG Products as [MENTION=149156]EJs16[/MENTION] mentions at my old dealership. They're not horrible products but there's some question as to their benefit in my opinion.
At my old dealership we had a couple odd "coincidences" where we used their EPR (Engine Performance Restoration) on some newer Toyotas and developed timing cover seeps barely before the oil change was done. Now they were covered under warranty and timing cover seeps on Toyota's is nothing new, so it's possible it just expedited an inevitable outcome. Also we only saw that happen less than half a dozen times over the course of a year. So it's hard to attribute causality there.
That being said, EPR works great for breaking down the sludge and cleaning out older motors; I personally wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it work on an old parts truck that had been rightly sludged and run low on oil. But there's some truth to the adage of "all that gunk is holding her together". So bottom line it's strong stuff and there was always a question about larger "chunks" and where they might end up, hard to say on that one...
Their 44K seems like it works okay, I mean worst case scenario it doesn't hurt anything and I've used it once or twice in my 4th gen. But then again I like Seafoam for that application and it is about the same, hard to say if it does anything better but it doesn't hurt anything. There isn't much that can clean your injectors if they ever get THAT clogged/gunked up besides a professional bench cleaner. But preventative maintenance I suppose can't hurt; even if the Seafoam/44k doesn't actually do anything for less than $10/can every 5k/10k it doesn't hurt I guess.
I'd stay away from BG's and anyone's products regarding Cooling and Transmission fluids. BG's stuff, despite their marketing, is not compatible with Toyota's SLLC (aka Toyota Pink) coolant. Their Coolant Additive has chemicals in it that are specifically removed from Toyota SLLC (Silicate, Borate, ect.) I always felt wrong adding it to customer's vehicles despite BG's assurances (but lack of data) when it goes against Toyota's formulation for their coolant. The same goes with their ATF additive, having no real data for what WS ATF actually is and what it's additive packages are, I wouldn't add any additive to them (Toyota says not to anyways), not to mention again, BG lacks any real data to support their claims for their ATF additives and their "universal" ATF fluid that they shuck on dealers to use (I went through the same questioning when they were using Valvoline's "Universal" stuff, but at least Valvoline had data that showed their Zerex Asian Formula Coolant was essentially orange-tinted Toyota SLLC). So that being said, I'd stick to Toyota stuff for coolant and transmission fluid.
Power Steering Fluid... well it's power steering fluid. Toyota marks Dex II or better on their reservoirs still. But if I recall most of the newer vehicles came with P/S Fluid from the factory. BG's stuff worked well as does plain old Dex II, Dex III, ect.
Brake fluid, stick with DOT3 fluid no real need to mess with that.
For the engine oil and transfer cases. Find a nice synthetic fluid that meets your needs and you like and run with it. Or just run dino oil in the differentials and follow 30k service intervals like the manual suggests. Either way works. I run Amsoil's Signature Synthetic in my vehicle current at 10k intervals and run their severe duty differential fluids at 50k intervals (I find their 100k+ claim a bit hard to swallow myself).
But I used BG Products as [MENTION=149156]EJs16[/MENTION] mentions at my old dealership. They're not horrible products but there's some question as to their benefit in my opinion.
At my old dealership we had a couple odd "coincidences" where we used their EPR (Engine Performance Restoration) on some newer Toyotas and developed timing cover seeps barely before the oil change was done. Now they were covered under warranty and timing cover seeps on Toyota's is nothing new, so it's possible it just expedited an inevitable outcome. Also we only saw that happen less than half a dozen times over the course of a year. So it's hard to attribute causality there.
That being said, EPR works great for breaking down the sludge and cleaning out older motors; I personally wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it work on an old parts truck that had been rightly sludged and run low on oil. But there's some truth to the adage of "all that gunk is holding her together". So bottom line it's strong stuff and there was always a question about larger "chunks" and where they might end up, hard to say on that one...
Their 44K seems like it works okay, I mean worst case scenario it doesn't hurt anything and I've used it once or twice in my 4th gen. But then again I like Seafoam for that application and it is about the same, hard to say if it does anything better but it doesn't hurt anything. There isn't much that can clean your injectors if they ever get THAT clogged/gunked up besides a professional bench cleaner. But preventative maintenance I suppose can't hurt; even if the Seafoam/44k doesn't actually do anything for less than $10/can every 5k/10k it doesn't hurt I guess.
I'd stay away from BG's and anyone's products regarding Cooling and Transmission fluids. BG's stuff, despite their marketing, is not compatible with Toyota's SLLC (aka Toyota Pink) coolant. Their Coolant Additive has chemicals in it that are specifically removed from Toyota SLLC (Silicate, Borate, ect.) I always felt wrong adding it to customer's vehicles despite BG's assurances (but lack of data) when it goes against Toyota's formulation for their coolant. The same goes with their ATF additive, having no real data for what WS ATF actually is and what it's additive packages are, I wouldn't add any additive to them (Toyota says not to anyways), not to mention again, BG lacks any real data to support their claims for their ATF additives and their "universal" ATF fluid that they shuck on dealers to use (I went through the same questioning when they were using Valvoline's "Universal" stuff, but at least Valvoline had data that showed their Zerex Asian Formula Coolant was essentially orange-tinted Toyota SLLC). So that being said, I'd stick to Toyota stuff for coolant and transmission fluid.
Power Steering Fluid... well it's power steering fluid. Toyota marks Dex II or better on their reservoirs still. But if I recall most of the newer vehicles came with P/S Fluid from the factory. BG's stuff worked well as does plain old Dex II, Dex III, ect.
Brake fluid, stick with DOT3 fluid no real need to mess with that.
For the engine oil and transfer cases. Find a nice synthetic fluid that meets your needs and you like and run with it. Or just run dino oil in the differentials and follow 30k service intervals like the manual suggests. Either way works. I run Amsoil's Signature Synthetic in my vehicle current at 10k intervals and run their severe duty differential fluids at 50k intervals (I find their 100k+ claim a bit hard to swallow myself).
Lester Lugnut
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The additive I use in the gas tank is.....gasoline.
The additive I use at the oil fill cap is.....oil.
The additive I use at the oil fill cap is.....oil.
Hellaflushfj60
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Might as well throw your money in the trash can. Just use a synthetic oil and mid grade gas. These aren't race cars, they don't require a lot of extra effort if any to run well for many years. It will not void your warranty.
