2019 Paint quality... is it just me?

[TRD PANTHER]

The paint on my black 2001 4Runner was better and without orange peel as compared to my black 2018. I had to have my 2018 paint corrected and then ceramic coated for it to look good, as the dealer prep had fine scratches all over. I was able to get the dealership to pay $500 towards the $1300 for paint correction and the ceramic coating. Well worth it, so far.

 

[NW.OH.T4R]

I second the orange peel on these. My '19 is terrible and I really noticed it when I installed the nerf bars. I'll be doing a full paint correction (sans PPF areas) ASAP.

 

[JJEC17]

Super white

I have 17 model with super white, I love the way it drives, one of the best driving vehicles I ever owned. I use my 4 runner as family vehicle and Rocky Mountain fishing rig, pulls a 1000 pound drift boat that’s it. Not all river boat ramps are created equally is the main reason we purchased a 4Runner plus it is nice to get to some remote fishing spots, but it still sees over 95 percent on road miles. Anywhere there is plastic the paint is starting to peel, and it chips like crazy all over the vehicle. 22000 miles and the paint is total garbage. I have put in a warranty claim to Toyota, but if they don’t cover it, it will be the last Toyota I own, I’ll start looking at Jeeps!

 

[iamartimus]

I had my voodoo blue ceramic coated and the detailer had a hard time because the paint would micro scratch. He called the dealer about this because this is the first time he's encountered something like this! The dealership only could say that the paint might not be fully set yet, so he will look at it again in 6 months.
This voodoo blue is harder to take care of than black!

 

[TRD PANTHER]

I had my voodoo blue ceramic coated and the detailer had a hard time because the paint would micro scratch. He called the dealer about this because this is the first time he's encountered something like this! The dealership only could say that the paint might not be fully set yet, so he will look at it again in 6 months.
This voodoo blue is harder to take care of than black!

Well, if it was like mine, the micro scratches are from poor dealer prep and the quick and dirty lousy washes the dealership crews do. My 4Runner was in the Ceramic Pro shop for one week as they really took the time and went through many stages of paint correction and buffing. Thin paint with lots of orange peel and subpar clear coat. I was so upset when I found out the local detail shop couldn’t fix it with normal clay bar and polish I wanted to get rid of it. Luckily the Ceramic Pro shop did a great job and got 90% of the blemishes and micro scratches out.

 

[csommers]

+1 on the orange peel, my 2018 has it pretty bad. Got the dealer to put $300 towards paint correction, but it's still not all that great.

 

[Muzzle of Bees]

Mine scratches easily, but no chips. Bought in Feb. 2016.
My gf has a 2018 RAV4 that has some chips on the hood. She drives fast so its likely her bad habits while on the road. It's the high velocity ricochets. I stay back 2 or 3 seconds from people on the highway.

 

[ProfessorP]

Toyota paint is horrible.

Can’t argue with you too much about Toyota paint quality.

My white ‘06 Tundra paint started to oxidize at two years. My silver ‘09 Tundra was much better. At 9 years the clear coat had one small spot that was starting to fail. So far my silver 2019 T4R is holding up fine especially considering the off road pinstripe hell I’ve been putting it through since day two of ownership.

The clear coat on my 2017 Ford F-150 in “Bronze Fire” was starting to fail at 18 months and 30,000 miles. Worst paint on any vehicle I’ve ever owned.

 

[Rapid_Amble]

Most mass produced cars have orange peel, even high end luxury vehicles. Probably need to wet sand the already very thin clear coat to remove orange peel.

Why bother, let it go. Correct swirls and marring, fill in pinstriping from trails with a glaze, apply sealant, and spend more time driving!

 

[Solofowaffles]

All these street queens *****ing about their paint jobs lol. It's a 4runner not a high end sports car.

 

[rageandlove]

I have a Voodoo Blue ... 5k miles and a few pretty decent off road trips. I have one chip on the hood that came from a rock off a truck on I5, a chip in the window that also came from a rock off a truck on I5, and a few scratches in the clearcoat from trees along the trail ... all of which is perfectly normal compared to the past few vehicles my family has owned while living in this area for 20 years (2 Hondas, 1 Acura, 1 Subaru).

I also don't find the VB to be hard to care for - I hand wash it every 2 weeks or so, and it looks great.

So - and everyone has their own experience - I find the Voodoo Blue to be no different than every other car I've owned, at least so far. It's only been 9 months so far ...

 

[Brick Sprickly]

I have a Voodoo Blue ... 5k miles and a few pretty decent off road trips. I have one chip on the hood that came from a rock off a truck on I5, a chip in the window that also came from a rock off a truck on I5, and a few scratches in the clearcoat from trees along the trail ... all of which is perfectly normal compared to the past few vehicles my family has owned while living in this area for 20 years (2 Hondas, 1 Acura, 1 Subaru).

I also don't find the VB to be hard to care for - I hand wash it every 2 weeks or so, and it looks great.

So - and everyone has their own experience - I find the Voodoo Blue to be no different than every other car I've owned, at least so far. It's only been 9 months so far ...

As a fellow voodoo blue owner I can't disagree with anything you said. It gets it's chips like any vehicle driven at a high velocity and in rough environments. If I expected it to look perfect I'd keep it in the garage like Cameron's dad
.

 

[PaulB-2006 T4R]

I have a MGM 2016 Trail, I do not have a paint chip and this is after a winter that saw sand used for ice traction. I also detail my cars, the clear coat on my 4Runner is easy to work and correct the small micro scratches from car washes. Also I do not have orange peel, the side view is a mirror.

I know my paint is better now than when I bought it, unfortunately it sat under a pine tree until I took it home. It took hours of clay baring to remove all the pine "droppings". What dealership has pines, idiots.

 

[TRD_Patriot_1776]

Toyotas paint is garbage. I don't care what you say. In the last decade I've owned 6 new vehicles from 3 different manufacturers, and now I own a 9 year old GMC Sierra that has better paint quality than our '19 TRDOR that I bought for my wife.

We didn't even have 200 miles on it when I found the first gouge in the front bumper plastic, that I seriously dount we caused. Id bet it was an issue during delivery. The dealer couldn't have cared less. All I got out of them was a free bottle of touchup paint, it was almost like they were use to complaints about paint quality and were done making attempts to satisfy the customer.

With less than 3500 miles on it now, it has even more paint chips. Two on the rear bumper that must have come from the carwash that I've been through 1000 times with other vehicles with no issues. Numerous others on the hood and mirrors that I didnt bother taking pictures of because they arent too bad. Yet.

The one on the door edge was my fault, I'll give you that much. But the vehicle I accidentally hit while getting our daughter out of her car seat didnt even have a scuff mark.

You can say what you want about "it's a 4runner, get over it" or "keep it parked in the garage", because in some degree I agree. However, when I pay nearly $45k for a vehicle, I expect better quality.

I'm disappointed to hear that it's a pretty common issue with Yotas as I was considering getting a Tundra as my next truck.

But hey, it looks amazing from 30 feet.

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[RusPro17]

I’m looking at trading my 17 White Pro in on voodoo blue. Yes my 4Runner with 12,000 miles on it has some chips in the front nose but not many. But I may have to get the front of it wrapped to protect it. I had my 19 Z06 fully wrapped and it is black and really protects it. Anyone has any input after owning it for a while. How is it washing it and waxing it your self.

 

[scionicboom]

I agree with everyone that says Toyota paint is garbage. I knew this when buying my 19 ORP though, but it still sucks. I had my fingers crossed it was better. Just over 1200 miles on it and already have 4 chips in the paint and a small surface scratch that refuses to buff out. Same issue when I had my Scion, Tacoma and last 4runner.

During that time I have had a Kia and 4 Mazdas and their paint is superior. My 2 current Mazdas have 0 chips with a ton more miles and every scratch that I have gotten with them has buffed out with a simple rag and elbow grease.

 

[TRDORP4Runner]

Yep, it's crap, already dealing with a few blemishes and chips on my 4 day old 2020, I could have been more careful, but it damages really easy.

 

[Grug556]

i didn't say they weren't better paints, i said water based paints are fine and plenty of manufacturers and are perfectly fine today. the change over started decades ago, we're at least a decade past everyone using water based paints and we've made it through the growing pains of flaking clear coats. the paint on the 4runner is notable bad even among other contemporary water based paints, it is very thin and scratches easily.

Water based paints may offer UV durability, that said their mechanical properties are generally less than solvent based all things being equal.

Enviro nazis are ruining the world. Ruining paint was just one of their end results.

 

[VB.TRD.Pro]

Four different chips of varying size on VB at < 100 miles. Toyota paint quality being garbage is an understatement.

 

[gbarr]

I have a 2012 with 100K+ miles with salsa red pearl paint and I'm amazed how good the paint still looks. Must be better quality on the pearl paint jobs.

I totally agree about the Toyota pearl being better having oned a White 2014 and a White 2016 4Runner and a 2017 Highlander Blizzard Pearl for approxamitely the same period of miles.