3rd generation quirks which we all face, but love the vehicle regardless

is it just me or does the front end slide before the rear end on snow? Maybe good tires would fix this, but that's what I have experienced.
 
HAHA You guys got it made compared to us with the land rovers.

I love my discovery but..

-Yall have rusted bumpers, we get rusted body panels.
-Yall don't have auto sun roofs, WE DO!! Two of them actually! That are prone to leak.
-Every 80k yall need to change your timing belt, we need a new headgasket or engine.
-If our headliners dont sag its because we painted them. I PRESSURE WASHED A 4runner headliner and no sag.
-Your poor window wont roll down from the rear, we don't have a roll down window. [I MISS THIS ONE]
-You can't open your tailgate from the inside... Oh wait we got yall on this.
-Feel your truck doesn't have any acceleration? We have LESS, I swear my engine doesn't know how to rev, and I have a 4.0 V8 with the same HP as your 3.4 V6 OH and I get about 3mpg less now, than when I had a 200k 4runner with 6" lift and 285/75/16's. NOW Im all stock on my discovery with 235/70/16's and can't get up nearlly as quick as a 4runner or gasmileage even close.

What ELSE?

-No auto down window?, well at least your rear windows roll down all the way, discoverys only go down halfway in the rear.
-Our rear passenger windows go out and you have to pull the window ecu and resolder it. [learned that today]
-YOU GUYS CAN ONLY LIFT YOUR TRUCK 3" BECAUSE OF IFS?
WE HAVE TWO SOLID AXLES AND CAN'T LIFT MORE THAN 3" WITHOUT A BUTLOAD OF NEW PARTS INCLUDING RADIUS ARMS BRAKE LINES ECT. Oh and YOU WILL need a NEW Driveshaft if you lift your vehicle at all, or youll get wobble.

-We lift our trucks 3-4" and still need to trim body panels to fit 33"s.

SO be glad...

I still love my discovery.
 
Most of the issues I had with a 3rd gen was when I had a '97 but going to a '99 took care of most of my quirks with a 3rd gen but one that still hangs on is I wish the V6 had another 30-40hp with no SC needed.
 
Can't get out of the back hatch from the inside is one that I almost forgot about. Found out about that when I first bought it and was scraping the tape off the inside of the back window.

Bad rotors....

But it still beats the crap out of my last 2 Blazers...
 
When i am putting something in the back via the back hatch and i go to stand up straight and i wack my head..maybe i should take a step out before standing up straight.hahah
 
I'm 6'0" and I can't stand it when I put the visor down, blocks my view! Lowerable seat would be nice.

The rear view mirror in the 3rd gen is a joke IMO, I have a broadway mirror but ever since I got the SR5 sun visors, they don't clear the mirror... so I can't move the visors past a certain point.

One piece exhaust manifold/catalytic converter on 3RZ models.

I don't have heated seats in my 4Runner, but who's clever idea was it to make both switches on the driver's side?

Warped rotors and even drums, no SUV should come with these small of brakes, period.


I love having the heated seats on the driver side. I always like to turn them on while theres passengers. After about 5 mins they start squirming around thinking the seats just warm because of the leather hahah.
 
For me, I love the 3rd gen 4Runners, but unfortunately, in Canada, the only non-chrome bumper manual transmission models are the 96-98 4-cyl models. That being said, the other thing I find about the 3rd gens is that most of them are automatic, making it impossible for me to find a decent one that is not overpriced. :(

Oh, and for some unknown reason, I keep hitting my head against the A-pillar whenever I get in and I'm not even tall...haha.
 
I haven't had my runner very long, but here are some of the annoying quirks I have seen:

1. The annoying hum of the frequent ABS tests on startup and during driving.
2. The Brown interior that is in 99% of all 3rd gens (Grey looks so much better!)
3. The side fabric on the 99-02s that picks up and holds every piece of lint it comes in contact with.
4. Changing out the spark plugs looks to be a PITA!

However, these are minor gripes for an amazing vehicle!
 
Changing the spark plugs on the 4Runner was actually extremely easy. The rear driver's side plug was the worst and even it was easy compared to most vehicles.

My main gripe:

CUPHOLDERS
 
My list...

Some have been said already but I'll list them anyway:

1. Auto up windows. A bit of a PITA especially for the wife, who has a hard time when she just wants the window open partway. I'm also concerned about auto-up windows in general for safety reasons - kids and dogs, mostly (I'm guessing this is why most newer cars don't have the auto-up feature, at least not the cars I've seen.) I would have been happy to have auto up and down on the driver's window only.

2. FUEL GAUGE! I'm actually getting to the point where I just ignore the fuel gauge/warning light and use the trip meter as a gas gauge like I do on my motorcycles.

3. Okay, now I know this one is a really minor quibble, but I have to say it: Why is there a rear seat heater - but no rear- seat AC? Would it have been that hard to plumb the AC to the rear fan as well as the heat?

4. Visors. I miss the "extensions" that my '04 Taco had. May have to retrofit some Taco visors.

5. I find the 3.4/auto combo has adequate power (not great, but adequate) but the MPG kind of sucks for a vehicle that is this lacking in power.

6. Along with #5, the poor MPG combined with the stingy 18.5 gallon gas tank gives the 4runner a really limited range. Practical range in city driving is ~250 miles. Even for the highway, you've got to figure on 300 miles maximum safe range. OTOH, my 90 Montero could go 400+ miles on a tank (thanks to its enormous 24.5 gallon tank) and even my little '99 Subaru could go nearly 400 on 16.5 gallons on the freeway.

Having said all that...the "pluses" of a 3rd gen 4runner are so numerous that they more than overcome the little nagging "minuses."

The fact that out of the box, with no mods, my 4runner can run 4 - 5 rated trails (on the 1-10 scale used by Traildamage.com) with no difficulty, fit 32" tires with no suspension mods, has a rear locker from the factory, and is reliable enough to drive anywhere even with >125,000 miles on the clock means that the 4runner is by far the best vehicle I have ever owned!

And when it's finally time to trade it in, it will almost certainly be for another 4runner!
 

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