The only thing keeping me from the 4th gen is price. By the time I get a 3rd gen and do the TRD S/C and supporting mods I'd have just as much invested, so it really wouldn't benefit me much (plus a lot of added stress on the rig). As much as I like the looks of the 3rd gen, it's looking more and more like I'm gonna scratch up every penny I can to get the 4th gen. I will not be wheeling at all. It may see a few gravel roads when hunting, and possibly a very slight bit of mud, but nothing deep. I've got a 87 4runner I use when I decide to go off roading, so no big deal there.