ChowChilla
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I have a 2017 4runner limited 4X4 and the dealership just got in trade a 2013 Land Cruiser with 42k miles for $47,000. What are your guys thoughts?
4RUNNER 2017 Vs 2013 Land Cruiser
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blakjack23
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Buying a brand new vehicle and selling it a year later is a pretty bad move financially.
However, if you don't care about the financial part, and want the LC, go fo it! You only live once.
However, if you don't care about the financial part, and want the LC, go fo it! You only live once.
itsdchz
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Tough call-
There may be a few features your 4R has that the LC will not- Most likely latest tech stuff.
Body style/aggressive looks may also be a concern.
Who had the vehicle before you and how they drove/took care of it would be big for me.
Mods- Do you off-road, what do you plan to do? Lift/Armor/Rack, all considerations.
Dollar for Dollar the T4R may be cheaper to own than the LC. Based upon having a limited, some items you are really going backwards on, but as everyone says, it IS a LC!
There may be a few features your 4R has that the LC will not- Most likely latest tech stuff.
Body style/aggressive looks may also be a concern.
Who had the vehicle before you and how they drove/took care of it would be big for me.
Mods- Do you off-road, what do you plan to do? Lift/Armor/Rack, all considerations.
Dollar for Dollar the T4R may be cheaper to own than the LC. Based upon having a limited, some items you are really going backwards on, but as everyone says, it IS a LC!
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JSparky
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Totally up to you, I like the commanding view and comfort of the cruiser but not the extra girth. I looked at pre owned 200's before getting my 16 Limited and part of my deciding factor was that the 4Runner was already big enough for the trails I run.. I just saw the potential for body damage going up on the cruiser. That's my criteria though, and I'd lie if I said I don't still want one.
Jetboy
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I've been pretty seriously looking at some used LC200's. Haven't jumped yet though. But it is tempting from time to time. Lots of work though to get a creampuff LC200 into trail ready kinda shape. Skids, lift, tires, winch, sliders, etc. all add up to a lot of work. I'd probably go for a GX460 instead as much as anything for the ability to swap over all my suspension parts and probably even the winch mount and skids. Sliders I don't think will work.
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bamma
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Not sure what a 17 4R has that a 13 LC does not. Both have entune, and the 13 LC has the multi terrain trail cameras: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YN74sZPIBY
Bumbo
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Both... at least until I decided if I really wanted to let one go.
I like the 2017 Limited, we have the same, but i've always wanted a LC.
Sometimes its hard to come across one that is cherry. I've never owned a LC so realistically I would want both until I was sure of what I was going to keep.
I think its cheaper having both than potentially making a rash decision like selling a brand new SUV to fund something you might not be 100% on.
Worse case, I loose a little money on the Limited for an extended test drive, or sell the LC and potentially break even.
Sometimes you just gotta pay to play.
I like the 2017 Limited, we have the same, but i've always wanted a LC.
Sometimes its hard to come across one that is cherry. I've never owned a LC so realistically I would want both until I was sure of what I was going to keep.
I think its cheaper having both than potentially making a rash decision like selling a brand new SUV to fund something you might not be 100% on.
Worse case, I loose a little money on the Limited for an extended test drive, or sell the LC and potentially break even.
Sometimes you just gotta pay to play.
bamma
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Having both, I can say that both are great vehicles.
The frame, axles, steering on the LC are massive compared to the tiny components in the 4runner. The LC interior is solid and the electrical wiring is put together really well, the 4runner just clips it all together. When you drive a land cruiser, and go back to a 4runner, you will instantly known the short cuts taken to make a car half the price. When I take friends or clients around in my LC, they think it is brand new, because it still feels that way after 6 years and 90k miles.
If you want a solid vehicle that will give you years of reliable service, buy a 4runner. If you want a solid vehicle that will give you decades of reliable service, buy a land cruiser, that is overengineered to last 25 years with no major component replacement. In the desert. The 4R is solidly built to a price point, the LC is not.
The LC is also 2x the price of a 4R. Probably not worth it for most consumers.
Also, if you build up your rig, the 4.0 in the 4R tends to get bogged down with lots of extra weight. The LC can handle it a bit better.
You will never hear a LC owner wish they had a 4R instead.
I think they are the two best 4x4s for relability and longevity on the market.
The frame, axles, steering on the LC are massive compared to the tiny components in the 4runner. The LC interior is solid and the electrical wiring is put together really well, the 4runner just clips it all together. When you drive a land cruiser, and go back to a 4runner, you will instantly known the short cuts taken to make a car half the price. When I take friends or clients around in my LC, they think it is brand new, because it still feels that way after 6 years and 90k miles.
If you want a solid vehicle that will give you years of reliable service, buy a 4runner. If you want a solid vehicle that will give you decades of reliable service, buy a land cruiser, that is overengineered to last 25 years with no major component replacement. In the desert. The 4R is solidly built to a price point, the LC is not.
The LC is also 2x the price of a 4R. Probably not worth it for most consumers.
Also, if you build up your rig, the 4.0 in the 4R tends to get bogged down with lots of extra weight. The LC can handle it a bit better.
You will never hear a LC owner wish they had a 4R instead.
I think they are the two best 4x4s for relability and longevity on the market.
Bumbo
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What did you mean by that? Care to elaborate?
bamma
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Not sure which part of the quoted language you were referring to:
1. In the desert--Toyota designs the Land Cruiser to last:
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2.The 4Runner is built to a price point to get more buyers, so while it is built well, it is not overbuilt (or as overbuilt as the LC). The LC is overbuilt to last in harsh environments, and cost is not as much of a concern, as they aren't planning on selling a lot of them here anyway.
The 4Runner is a great vehicle, that is built in one of the best plants in the world. They will last a long time. The LC is simply overbuilt/designed to last longer, but as a consumer, you pay a lot more to get it.
JSparky
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I hear you, I'm not terribly impressed with the clearance on a lot of the 200 rear bumpers and sliders on the market either, which would mean custom for me and even more $$$.
Speaking of built 200's, MScruiser is selling his over on 'mud.. one of the few 200's on 37's that I've seen.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/se...reen-200-series-on-37s-in-jackson-ms.1023487/
Bumbo
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1) You had me at desert, considering thats literally where I do all my off-road
2) The formatting didn't come across right on my screen.
3) Thanks for the link, awesome read.
I wish I could own both. I did a lot of research before making my final decision (2018 4runner Off Road Prem). The 2013 LC200 is a machine that’s hard to beat. The thing is built amazing. Luxury and space are a bonus. One would expect reliability close to what the 100 series gives [300k+ miles). Electronics are not as slick as the Entune but it’s got a decent system with Bluetooth.
What made me not choose it was primarily the size. I couldn’t fit in garage with our other SUV. On the trail it would have been a bit wide. I do some exploring and even the Jeep used to get pinstripes. Also the way the seats fold (both 2nd and 3rd row) in the LC is quite space consuming.
If the size isn’t an issue (and be honest to yourself about how you will use the rog) then do a good test drive to decide.
What made me not choose it was primarily the size. I couldn’t fit in garage with our other SUV. On the trail it would have been a bit wide. I do some exploring and even the Jeep used to get pinstripes. Also the way the seats fold (both 2nd and 3rd row) in the LC is quite space consuming.
If the size isn’t an issue (and be honest to yourself about how you will use the rog) then do a good test drive to decide.
bamma
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The 13 LC has entune...
What's the range difference between the two?
volpe30
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I’m curious if “better in every way” includes off road capability. Thanks.
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