'94 T4R or 2000 T4R

jadefox

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We are trying to decide between a 2000 4Runner SR5 4WD auto (207K) and a 1994 4runner SR5 4WD 5-speed (222K) described as. The latter is more off-road ready--we fish a lot and need rough road access--but older and has more miles. It is, not surprisingly, less expensive. It does have a 5-speed manual transmission, which we consider a plus. The other truck is newer (2000) and more of "a street vehicle," but capable of what we need it to do (it's a 4Runner after all!). We're looking for general impressions about which truck to go with and what to look for when we see each.

The 2000 is, according to the current owner, in "very good shape, clean, 207K. New rubber, fuel and brake lines. New chrome front and rear. New 2" class III hitch. Power windows, locks and moon roof. Runs like a Yoda!! ALL SYSTEMS WORK WELL. NO FLUID LEAKS. NO OIL BURN." Additional information: the instrument cluster light doesn't work and "The brakes are good the rubber and belts are new. The guy before had the transmission rebuilt. No smoke, no leaks, no ticks. Interior good for 12+ years."

The 1994 4runner SR5 4WD is described by its owner as "a 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 V6 with 222K "but you wouldn't know it by looking at it, or driving it." This one has Downey headers on it, an electric radiator fan, K&N Air intake, 1" lifted with air bags in rear springs. It has an All Pro Off Road custom rear bumper with tow hitch and KC Daylighter lights mounted out back. "Truck was originally from Californina, and has almost no rust. Frame is in awesome shape!" According to owner, "all fluids have recently been switched, performance front brakes, with drilled and slotted rotors, and EBC pads (they stop 30% better than stock)
and new calipers, all this summer. 32" BFG MT/km tires with 70% tread left. Bushwacker flares, and Mickey Thompson Classic aluminum rims." He told me there is "a small exhaust leak in the pipe somewhere. Not a big deal, but easy to fix. (welded likely)," but other than that he says it's good to go.

Does anyone here have a strong feeling on which one we should be leaning towards? Thanks!
 
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2000 by far. The motor is 1000x better in the 3rd gens, and will be just as capable as the 2nd gen with little work. Without seeing a pic, I'd say $6k giver or take a few hundred would be a good price.
 
2000 by far. The motor is 1000x better in the 3rd gens, and will be just as capable as the 2nd gen with little work. Without seeing a pic, I'd say $6k giver or take a few hundred would be a good price.

We're trying to go see/drive the 2000 today. I read through the buyer's guide here. Anything else to particularly be looking for?
 
Just look for rust, listen for any squeaking or odd noises. Other than the basic stuff that will jump out at you, you'll know whether its in good shape or not.
 
Neither, wait for a 4x4 5 speed 3rd gen to come about, do not compromise, I love my 5 speed 3rd gen, i would not buy an automatic nor would i buy a 2nd gen!
 
Nah, I wouldn't want a 5spd. That makes it too hard to text when I drive! I've had 5spds before, and I'm glad I got an auto.







I'm only kidding of course...
 
If you do decide on a 2nd gen, get a 4cyl. I have a couple friends who got real cheap 2nd gens to haul their fishing boats and they're in great running shape. Good, solid yota 4. Unlike the 3.0 V6...
 
Having owned 3 2nd gens (92, 2 95s) and 3 3rd gens (01, 98, 02) I can say definitely go with the 2000. The 3rd gens have a lot more power (my 2nd gens wouldn't maintain speed on long hills in the Ozarks), are much more comfortable on the trails (the 2nd gens beat you to death), and have less stuff on the engine to go bad.

The 2nd gens (3.0L) had lots of head gasket failures (almost all of them) and are a pain in the ____ to change (I spent 20 hours changing them in my last 95 - and I've built a motor or two or three or . . .). They also have a bunch of coolant hoses on the intake setup (for the TB, manifold, who knows what) that all seem to dry rot and fail randomly. The 2nd gen auto (though I know you're looking at a 5-speed) had problems with overheating too. Overall the 3rd gen is a much more reliable, comfortable, powerful, capable truck, and gets better mileage too.
 
Thanks everyone. We saw and test drove the 2000 today. It *appears* a solid vehicle and it drove well. It's noisier than our 1999 2wd F150 and not as clean, but the F150 has only about 80,000 miles and is an exceptional vehicle (that can't handle much off the pavement (or much in the way of snow on the pavement), hence the 4Runner). As expected, there is frame rust underneath this 4Runner, but it was less than I have seen in many similarly aged NE vehicles and more than I have seen in most CA trucks (our F150 is a CA truck). Nowhere did it appear to the point of rusting out, but I'm no expert in this department. There were no noticeable odd noises while driving on the road at speed or while driving in 4H or 4L. Coming out of 4L back into 4H while in neutral caused a brief grind--normal or cause for concern? There is tiny bit of rust on a rear fender that has been repaired, but the rest of the body looks pretty good save some cosmetic blemishes. The chrome is new and the wheels probably have 75% of their lives ahead of them. New hitch was installed by the current owner who said the previous owner replaced the transmission, but there is no paper trail.
 
I've owned an 1988, 1991, 1998, and now a 1999 4Runner. Go for a 3rd generation. I get about 20 mpg with the 1999, while I was lucky to get 15 mpg with the 1991. MPG's aren't everything but overall the 3rd gen is a big improvement. Both were 5speeds. I had to do a valve job on the 91 with just 133,000 on it. I looked for 6 months before I bought my most resent Runner. I'm from NH and flew to S. Carolina to buy mine because of the rust issues but I'm sure you can find a nice truck if you are patient. If you find something in NH I could take a look for you--check craigslist. Good luck
 
Thanks again, everyone. We are NOW the proud parents of a 2000 T4R.
 

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