About to pull the trigger looking for advice

[fochtup1]

I’m about to pull the trigger on lifting my 98 limited. It currently has worn out tundra trd struts and springs up front and LC coils in the rear that were broken when I bought it, I welded them back up because what the hell...can’t make the worse than they were.
OK here we go, I’m looking to purchase from wheelers off-road, looking at
1- old man emu 2890 rear, wheelers T1 front coils with Bilstein 5100. OR
2- toytec superflex rear, toytec front coils with Bilstein 5100. OR
3- pro truck lift stage 1 lift system
One question with choice 1 & 2...do I order the front struts for the tundra or 4Runner.
I’m leaning more towards the toytec but would like to hear some input for others.
Thank you

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[springer01]

I just put toytec/eibach with tundra 5100s front and OME 891 with tundra 5100s rear last weekend. I have nothing to compare it to besides stock setup, but I'm loving it so far!

 

[fochtup1]

I just put toytec/eibach with tundra 5100s front and OME 891 with tundra 5100s rear last weekend. I have nothing to compare it to besides stock setup, but I'm loving it so far!

That looks good, what size tire are you running, I’m currently on a 265/75-16 and hoping to go bigger


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[Lindenwood]

Do you like a relatively firm ride? On Options 1 and 2, you will have a pretty stiff front setup, especially the Toytec Eibachs. There are lots of anecdotes, including my own, of people ending up unhappy with the stiffness (even with extra weight--I had 250lb extra up front). I went back to stock-rate coils and happily admit I have more body roll and brake dive (and recently took off my front sway bar, further exacerbating the cornering roll).

To that end, Id honestly recommend OME 880 coils on some 5100s, because the 5100s will allow you to adjust the lift height as high as you want. The 880s would give 1.5-2" on their own, and you could then set the 5100 spring perches higher as required, and won't sacrifice in stiffness if you don't want to. I believe Tundra and [Tacoma] 5100s are pretty much the same, but the Tundras have one or two extra spring perch settings, enabling more fine-tuning of the lift height (i.e. between sides).

As to the rear, just be aware the Superflex coils are pretty tall, and are not soft (they are 240lb/in coils, which are the stiffest of any common upgrade). I traded mine for some 890s for the same reason, despite having added over 300lb to the rear. However, they do have excellent load-carrying capacity.

All that said, if you do actually like a firmer / sportier road feel, the front eibachs and rear Superflex coils will certainly give you that. But, I ended up going for a slightly "squishier" road feel in order to maintain a setup that is much smoother offroad.

 

[fochtup1]

Do you like a relatively firm ride? On Options 1 and 2, you will have a pretty stiff front setup, especially the Toytec Eibachs. There are lots of anecdotes, including my own, of people ending up unhappy with the stiffness (even with extra weight--I had 250lb extra up front). I went back to stock-rate coils and happily admit I have more body roll and brake dive (and recently took off my front sway bar, further exacerbating the cornering roll).

To that end, Id honestly recommend OME 880 coils on some 5100s, because the 5100s will allow you to adjust the lift height as high as you want. The 880s would give 1.5-2" on their own, and you could then set the 5100 spring perches higher as required, and won't sacrifice in stiffness if you don't want to. I believe Tundra and [Tacoma] 5100s are pretty much the same, but the Tundras have one or two extra spring perch settings, enabling more fine-tuning of the lift height (i.e. between sides).

As to the rear, just be aware the Superflex coils are pretty tall, and are not soft (they are 240lb/in coils, which are the stiffest of any common upgrade). I traded mine for some 890s for the same reason, despite having added over 300lb to the rear. However, they do have excellent load-carrying capacity.

All that said, if you do actually like a firmer / sportier road feel, the front eibachs and rear Superflex coils will certainly give you that. But, I ended up going for a slightly "squishier" road feel in order to maintain a setup that is much smoother offroad.

Ok thank you, I don’t daily drive this vehicle but I also don’t have the extra weight on either end of aftermarket bumpers. I use it to drive around town and go to the off-road trails. I do plan on adding bumpers and winch eventually....but maybe not for sometime. I hate the nose dive and not a fan of body roll either. Thank you for your input.


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[springer01]

That looks good, what size tire are you running, I’m currently on a 265/75-16 and hoping to go bigger


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These are 265/75/16 Cooper Discoverer STT Pro, I did have to add 1.25" wheel spacers to keep them off the upper control arms. I read several threads that a few people said this setup was stiff, but I was running factory setup with yellow Bilstein shocks before this and I like the somewhat firmer ride. I DD a Ford F150 supercrew with a front spacer and add a leaf in rear and the 4runner isn't any stiffer than it is. I may or may not add a front ,rear bumper, and/or winch, but my theory is if I do then I don't have to replace my suspension again!

 

[Lindenwood]

To be fair, the relative stiffness never bothered me until I started wheeling with my kid in a carseat. Then I started seeing the need for a softer setup.

Though, most of the weight wasn't added until about a year after installing those shocks, and it was not a pleasant ride.