I'm glad you asked this. I am experiencing the exact same thing on the Certified used 4runner I just purchased. It was making me feel something wasn't quite right and was quite surprising at lights to realize "Hey! I'm moving!' despite having the pedal depressed. I feel like I have to mash it pretty hard to stay stopped. I do also have a vibration in the brake pedal any time it's depressed, but that's another thread... The break accumulator according to the Toyota parts schematic vibrates like crazy through in to the brake pedal any time the brake is pressed, and then again if you press harder, even when parked......
Anything I can do to improve the stock brakes?
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Jivewalker
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I'm at 180,000 miles in my 2012 and just put my third set of OEM pads on last weekend. Gotta say I've been real happy with the braking performance and the toyota pads and calipers. The only times I have nose dived was when I deserved it for not paying attention and slamming on the brakes and maybe twice when something ran out in front of me. Truck stopped great every time, anti lock brakes work great if you stay on the pedal. Getting used to the truck and feel have a lot to do with it. Jusy my .02
Texas_Ranger
New member
Akebono Premium pads with centric premium rotors was a total fix for me. Braking is day and night improvement. I don't get the air bubble feeling at 50% pedal press and its very consistent with the pressure put on the pedal till stop. I recommend.
kenwilliams0803
New member
This exactly for me.
BigCountryT4R
New member
There are several models of those pads. Can you link me to the ones you are talking about?
Check out ShowMeTheParts - Automotive Aftermarket Electronic Catalog
It will give you the Akebono options.
Teamoatmealpie
New member
Napa has them labeled online as the Performance pad- when you get them in hand its the Premium. Bout $89 each end.
I'd try this first then see how it goes.
Akebono Brake Pads Front Ceramic
PART # :
AKE ASP976
I'd try this first then see how it goes.
Akebono Brake Pads Front Ceramic
PART # :
AKE ASP976
BigCountryT4R
New member
Thanks. I'll see about getting some myself. Here is a better deal but Amazon says they don't fit 4runner. hmm Edit: Looked it up on Napa, and the part # matches for 4Runner. Amazon is wrong then. But good price for sure.
https://www.amazon.com/Akebono-Perf...+ASP976&qid=1567080668&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr0
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i went with the stop tech slotted rotors and street pads. For the price of stock replacements and had previously had these on other cars owned.
TBH the brake rotor dust in the beginning was terrible and made me immediately regret my decision :smash: however i was provided the incorrect pads (intended for heavy towing) once I had the correct ones in now... all is great!
I notice more "bite". Stock setup I was pleasantly pleased with however. Numerous deer that survived times
TBH the brake rotor dust in the beginning was terrible and made me immediately regret my decision :smash: however i was provided the incorrect pads (intended for heavy towing) once I had the correct ones in now... all is great!
I notice more "bite". Stock setup I was pleasantly pleased with however. Numerous deer that survived times
Charlievee
Senior Member
Yep, brake upgrades are planned. Anyone else experience fade or more like acceleration while slowning down on a slight incline. Scares the hell out of me. Same stop sign in my neighborhood. Slow down, hit the slight upgrade and it feels like you speed up. Hate all the drive by wire crap.
Texas_Ranger
New member
AKEBONO ACT606 ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad Rear
AKEBONO ACT976 ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad; Includes Shims
Front;
CENTRIC 12044175 - rear
CENTRIC 12044174 - front
Rockauto.com has them and the rotors
Cheers!
Member
Everyones post that has been negative about the 5th gen 4runner's brake performance is characterizing how ceramic brake pads perform. Yes there are more aggressive ones where it will have higher initial bite etc...
Before writing off the 5th gen 4runner has horrible braking system...
I would give any of these a try (which I've all used in various cars [s2000, rx7, Subaru WRX, Subaru Legacy]
EBC Green
EBC Yellow (I have these on my 2015 4runner) - good brake feel, a little surprised how much rotor wear is coming from these pads considering they are organic based
Hawk HPS (if you are ok with corrosive brake dust + needing new rotors when the pads are worn down) - used on my rx7 and wrx
Hawk HP+ (If you want max brake performance without needing warm up, these are it, they ruined my BBS wheels finish on my WRX back in the day, also ate up the rotors).
Stoptech Streetpads (came with my s2000 ST40 bbk)
For me I had to do a brake job on my 4runner limited after owning it for 12,000 miles. I was coming back home from Yosmite while descending down the mountain passes faster than I should have. The brakes were hot... and then all of the sudden I rolled into Sunday vacationer traffic and it was bumper to bumper single lane stop and go for miles. The super hot brakes I had meant the ceramic pads imprinted onto the rotors as I had to hold brake on a grade not to roll into the car infront.
I had the dealer turn down the rotor, but it was hopeless. It just got worse and worse and 2 months later I did a full brake job on my own.
4 brand new Toyota rotors (from a forum Toyota sponsor)
EBC Yellowstuff (from Total Automotive Performance)
3 bottles of Motul RBF600 just because
excellent brakes now. But I'm sensing that when the EBC yellow pads are finsihed, I won't be able to turn the rotors as too much has worn down.
My next try will be Toyota OEM Rotors again
but...
Carbotech 1521 pads front and rear and another flush of Motul RBF600.
I've never had good luck with ceramic pads. I've always had horrible pad imprint and also hate the low bite when pads/rotors are not warmed up.
Before writing off the 5th gen 4runner has horrible braking system...
I would give any of these a try (which I've all used in various cars [s2000, rx7, Subaru WRX, Subaru Legacy]
EBC Green
EBC Yellow (I have these on my 2015 4runner) - good brake feel, a little surprised how much rotor wear is coming from these pads considering they are organic based
Hawk HPS (if you are ok with corrosive brake dust + needing new rotors when the pads are worn down) - used on my rx7 and wrx
Hawk HP+ (If you want max brake performance without needing warm up, these are it, they ruined my BBS wheels finish on my WRX back in the day, also ate up the rotors).
Stoptech Streetpads (came with my s2000 ST40 bbk)
For me I had to do a brake job on my 4runner limited after owning it for 12,000 miles. I was coming back home from Yosmite while descending down the mountain passes faster than I should have. The brakes were hot... and then all of the sudden I rolled into Sunday vacationer traffic and it was bumper to bumper single lane stop and go for miles. The super hot brakes I had meant the ceramic pads imprinted onto the rotors as I had to hold brake on a grade not to roll into the car infront.
I had the dealer turn down the rotor, but it was hopeless. It just got worse and worse and 2 months later I did a full brake job on my own.
4 brand new Toyota rotors (from a forum Toyota sponsor)
EBC Yellowstuff (from Total Automotive Performance)
3 bottles of Motul RBF600 just because
excellent brakes now. But I'm sensing that when the EBC yellow pads are finsihed, I won't be able to turn the rotors as too much has worn down.
My next try will be Toyota OEM Rotors again
but...
Carbotech 1521 pads front and rear and another flush of Motul RBF600.
I've never had good luck with ceramic pads. I've always had horrible pad imprint and also hate the low bite when pads/rotors are not warmed up.
Charlievee
Senior Member
I found it happens when the A/C kicks on. I guess that the "drive/brake by wire" nanny brake assist doesn't notice the slight increase in RPM's. So, your stopped, A/C compressor kicks in and you start rolling forward. Unless you mash the brake peddle to the floor... After you stop. Annoying.
Kamalani Mahie
New member
Coming from older pickups and suburbans I think the brakes on the 4runner outperform them over the long run. Old brakes can't be compared to new ones either. As they wear, braking get's worse. More pedal press needs to be used to get the brakes to bite the same and then there's no press left for modulation. I'd stick with OEM rotors but try the Akebono pads. Probably bleed the brakes and maybe consider a flush if that doesn't change things. I've never had an issue with creep, but I've always had a heavy braking foot. I've actually had to learn to lighten up with the 4runner.
ElectroBoy
Banned
Driving down Old Priest Grade? That’s brutal on the brakes. I only drive *up* that road.
Charlievee
Senior Member
I never drove it, but why not use the transmission to control descent speed instead of riding the brakes?
