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I have a 93 t4r with a 22re I bought it with a bad motor, water and oil mixed (not seized) and sat for 5 years....... I have not ripped in to it but I am thinking timing guide....... soooooooo I found a 22r with super low miles and was wondering if I could just slap a 22re head on it and get her going? HELP!!!!!
 
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This should not be an issue in terms of compatibility, the block (possibly the head also) should be the same. The "E" in 22-RE Denotes "Electronic Fuel Injection" so as long as you set it up like a EFI engine it should work.

One thing that should be mentioned is that the 22R you are looking at needs to be Post 1985 as the earlier engines are significantly different from the 22RE you have.
 
BlackWorksInc said:
One thing that should be mentioned is that the 22R you are looking at needs to be Post 1985 as the earlier engines are significantly different from the 22RE you have.
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This. Post '85, there's no difference between the 22r and the 22re block. 84 and earlier 22r motors have a slightly different block that you can't just bolt your RE stuff up to.

Buy your goodies from engnbldr.com, and while you've got him on the phone pick his brain to make sure the block you're buying is compatible with yours. Dude knows everything 22RE.

Then put up a holler when you're ready to do the swap, I'd love to come help.
 
Hi Kevin.
What about compression ratios? Usually EFI engines have a higher (then carburated counterparts) compression ratio due to timing control.

Speaking in general. Not sure if this is the case with this engine though.
 
BrazilianT4R said:
Hi Kevin.
What about compression ratios? Usually EFI engines have a higher (then carburated counterparts) compression ratio due to timing control.

Speaking in general. Not sure if this is the case with this engine though.
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To the best of my knowledge*, the only difference between the 85+ 22R and the 22RE is the carb or EFI stuff bolted on. The blocks and the heads are supposed to be the same.

*not much
 
KidVermicious said:
This. Post '85, there's no difference between the 22r and the 22re block. 84 and earlier 22r motors have a slightly different block that you can't just bolt your RE stuff up to.

Buy your goodies from engnbldr.com, and while you've got him on the phone pick his brain to make sure the block you're buying is compatible with yours. Dude knows everything 22RE.

Then put up a holler when you're ready to do the swap, I'd love to come help.
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You guys are freaking awesome! I am 98% sure they are the same heads as well looking on ebay and other parts houses they don't even ask if it is efi or carbed even the intake manafold gaskets are the same!!! tell me what I need as far as tools and gaskets and such and lets get er done. I found a post 85 22r that was fully rebuilt 50k miles ago for $450 w00t!
 
Goocherrific said:
You guys are freaking awesome! I am 98% sure they are the same heads as well looking on ebay and other parts houses they don't even ask if it is efi or carbed even the intake manafold gaskets are the same!!! tell me what I need as far as tools and gaskets and such and lets get er done. I found a post 85 22r that was fully rebuilt 50k miles ago for $450 w00t!
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I've never done a conversion, I don't know if there's any tricky bits in terms of gaskets and such. For tools, you'll need the basics - sockets, extensions, box ends, a ft/lb torque wrench, gasket scraper, small hands :), that's about it. For parts, I'll recommend again that you call Ted at engnbldr and tell him what you're doing. He's a 22-series guru and will know exactly what you need, and his prices and customer service are top notch. I don't think there's anything weird involved, but if there is he'll know it and can get you pointed in the right direction.
 
Ted just emailed me back, talk about fast! He says even the head is identical! I'm so Flippin stoked right now I want to high five you all!
 
any long term damage?

say I put engine honey in my motor to the point I get valve noise.....then quickly turn off engine. then do an oil change. would there be any long term or significant damage?
 
Goocherrific said:
say I put engine honey in my motor to the point I get valve noise.....then quickly turn off engine. then do an oil change. would there be any long term or significant damage?
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what is engine honey? best thing after sitting that long is to pull the pan anti freeze eats aluminum and the moisture probably has rusted the crank surface

how bad was the oil when you drained it?
 
riverview said:
what is engine honey? best thing after sitting that long is to pull the pan anti freeze eats aluminum and the moisture probably has rusted the crank surface

how bad was the oil when you drained it?
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Sorry, it's a hypothetical question...... It actually applies to an engine I am looking at buy to replace it. Engine honey is to thicken oil the owner of said engine thought his oil pressure was low. I have not pulled the pan on my engine, I think after sitting that long I'll just replace it t
 
I haven't done it yet, I plan to on my next change. I've heard of using anything from a couple glugs to half a quart. You don't want to leave it in there. though. A day or two, 50-100 miles, then change the oil.
 
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