Bad Idea Mods

Brush bar/brush guard: piece of plastic that doesn't protect your vehicle at best. At worst it gets bent into your bumper/lights/grille in an accident and does more damage.
Headlight/tailight bar protectors: see above
K&N filter: save yourself 70 bucks and just spray some PAM into your air intake, same thing.
Cold Air Intake: at best it makes for a weird howl under power, at worst it lets dirt and moisture get into your air intake
Bug guard: does't stop bugs, does't stop rocks. What it does do is perpetually keep a bead of water under your hood lip where it attaches and can start to rust
Clear bras: eventually start to look cloudy, hard to remove, if your car is a bright color like red they may cause the UV light to fade the uncovered parts of your vehicle differently
Window visors: if you like wind noise and don't want to keep rain out... well...
Pin stripes: when the owner of the dealership wants to give his drug addled step son a "job" and make 400 dollars profit by sticking 5 bucks of shit to a car, this is the way to do it.
 
The tint will stick fine, but it becomes downright dangerous at night- especially on windows that can't be rolled down.

Gotcha.....I left my factory tint alone on my 4r, but I did tint over the factory tint on my Tacoma. It's a bit different on the Taco since the cab and windows are so small.
 
Light Racing/SPC Upper Control Arms :redbrick:
My SPEC Ride bushings are shot and ball joint boot has a hole from rubbing on the spring. Just ordered TC UCA replacements.
 
Light Racing/SPC Upper Control Arms :redbrick:

My SPEC Ride bushings are shot and ball joint boot has a hole from rubbing on the spring. Just ordered TC UCA replacements.


I was going to say the same thing. Way too many problems with them for me to fool with.
 
Scotch Locks & T-Taps............BAD, VERY BAD!!!!!!
 

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For those unhappy with bug shields or bug deflectors, may I suggest Toyota's OEM Hood Protector.:bathbaby:
 
Don't forget about adding a Hybrid badge

But it get me into the fast lane downtown. It's staying on.

As far as worse mods...

Wheel spacers. EVER. Sure they may kill you, but I don't want your junk slamming into my junk when it fails and killing me or mine.

Painting ANYTHING under your vehicle to match ANY flavor of skittles.

+20" Wheels..... It's not a sports car, it's an SUV you numbskull. All you are doing is making the ride suck while simultaneously letting people know you made it to puberty and it's not sitting well with you.
 
HID in standard housings.
Lifting over 2 1/2"
Any Body Lift
Modifying a component that you do not thoroughly understand
Installing a bug shield to keep bugs off your windshield
Determining you are smarter than the engineers that designed the 4Runner and:
Changing oil and grease type and viscosity
Changing recommended maintenance intervals on "yours or your dad"s experiences"

Any wheel that needs a spacer just to fit

What's wrong with a little body lift????

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Owner reports, no rubbing at all EVER even with 33s
 
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Painting ANYTHING under your vehicle to match ANY flavor of skittles.

+20" Wheels..... It's not a sports car, it's an SUV you numbskull. All you are doing is making the ride suck while simultaneously letting people know you made it to puberty and it's not sitting well with you.

We have to be careful here. Changing colors underneath your vehicle is a personal mod. Doesn't do harm. 20" wheels, again, are personal preference. If it's a 2wd SUV in Florida, is that so bad?

We're talking about mods that do harm right?

Someone may come out and point out that changing your shift knob is a poor mod. What's the point?
 
We have to be careful here. Changing colors underneath your vehicle is a personal mod. Doesn't do harm. 20" wheels, again, are personal preference. If it's a 2wd SUV in Florida, is that so bad?

We're talking about mods that do harm right?

Someone may come out and point out that changing your shift knob is a poor mod. What's the point?

To be clear, I said +20" wheels. And it does harm the vehicle, even if only the level of comfort from the ride. 22", 24", 26", 28", 30", and 32" wheels negatively effect the ride and handling. Thus a bad idea.

As for the painting under your vehicle, you are correct, there is no danger or harm to the vehicle (aside from the walmart rattle can you painted your skids and diff with over-sprayed on you exhaust and catches fire on the way to Wednesday bingo causing a brush fire next to the road where you pulled over that spreads to local homes and burns and kills everyone):lol:

I guess you agree that the posts about hood scoops, stick on shiny things, Hybrid badges, and blue headlights all "harm" the vehicle??? NO? Just my paint and 22" or larger wheel comment then? That's odd, out of the 10 things mentioned that do not harm the vehicle, you only have a problem with two that I posted.

I did not mean to hurt anyone's feeling, sorry it bothered you, and you are right, my shift knob is a poor mod I cannot deny it. My vehicle already has one thing in this thread that has been listed, I'm okay with that......let's all not start getting butthurt and bagging on other people mods in retaliation. It makes it not fun...it's just the imterwebs man.
 
To be clear, I said +20" wheels. And it does harm the vehicle, even if only the level of comfort from the ride. 22", 24", 26", 28", 30", and 32" wheels negatively effect the ride and handling. Thus a bad idea.
I think the point is that there are mods that are plain wrong (or harmful to the vehicle or detrimental to the safety of passengers and pedestrians) - see HID "PNP" kits in OEM housings.

Then there are personal preference mods which will cater to individual tastes - see paint/plastidip or shift knobs.

Then there are mods that are ok in a vacuum, but have limitations or drawbacks - see cold air intakes (user must understand the risks, limitations, and minimal gains, if any, to be had if maximizing horsepower is the end goal).

20" wheels or larger are ok and really are not detrimental or harmful to anyone or anything. If you prefer a softer ride with 17" wheels and massive sidewall, that's fine too. But some people actually do prefer the look of 22" wheels and even the feel of having less sidewall flex to actually increase the road feel and responsiveness. Style-wise, people can debate forever about wheel size on 4runners. But you can't say that it is "wrong" to put 22" wheels on it or that a person "should just go with 17" wheels" (at least not without knowing the intended use and driving conditions that the vehicle will encounter). Obviously, putting 22" wheels on a 4runner without going to a 35" tire probably isn't the best idea for going offroad, but 22" wheels are ok for anything paved.

edit: I have OEM 20" wheels and 275/55 tires for the warmer months.... and 17" Sequoia wheels with 265/70 winter tires for the colder months. I personally enjoy both styles.
 
I think the point is that there are mods that are plain wrong (or harmful to the vehicle or detrimental to the safety of passengers and pedestrians) - see HID "PNP" kits in OEM housings.

Then there are personal preference mods which will cater to individual tastes - see paint/plastidip or shift knobs.

Then there are mods that are ok in a vacuum, but have limitations or drawbacks - see cold air intakes (user must understand the risks, limitations, and minimal gains, if any, to be had if maximizing horsepower is the end goal).

20" wheels or larger are ok and really are not detrimental or harmful to anyone or anything. If you prefer a softer ride with 17" wheels and massive sidewall, that's fine too. But some people actually do prefer the look of 22" wheels and even the feel of having less sidewall flex to actually increase the road feel and responsiveness. Style-wise, people can debate forever about wheel size on 4runners. But you can't say that it is "wrong" to put 22" wheels on it or that a person "should just go with 17" wheels" (at least not without knowing the intended use and driving conditions that the vehicle will encounter). Obviously, putting 22" wheels on a 4runner without going to a 35" tire probably isn't the best idea for going offroad, but 22" wheels are ok for anything paved.

edit: I have OEM 20" wheels and 275/55 tires for the warmer months.... and 17" Sequoia wheels with 265/70 winter tires for the colder months. I personally enjoy both styles.


I DON'T CARE!

I don't know why my post struck a chord with people, but the 10-12 other post about blacked out lights, hood scoops, badges, blue lights, plasti dip, window tint, and all other harmless mods did not. But I don't care.....

Paint you rear diff orange, run 26" rims, wear your trucker hat backwards....go nuts....paint the town red.....do what makes you feel special......

But please don't try to explain to me how the Internet forums should be understood or what is off limits to "not like"


NOW....... Can we get back to posting the mods we don't like so I can enjoy laughing at other people? Are we done explaining why I cannot be against spray painted axles and 22" wheels? I hope so.

Here is another one that should make some people mad. putting a $109.99 sony head unit in place of a far superior factory head unit because you think you are a stereo master.

When I was shopping for a TE, I saw not one, but two that had some single din, rainbow colored cheap head unit installed. After market head units in general are fine, and in many cases even better (I put the Pioneer AVIC D2 in my Sequoia)....but why on earth put a Sony explode single din in a 2011 TE?
 
I run wheel spacers...Like anything else, a poor install or using poorly designed spacers is dangerous. I've been running properly installed spidertrax for well over a year now with no issues. I'd argue that a tire failure is more likely to cause "someone else's junk to hit your family" than a well designed and properly installed wheel spacer. But hey, that's just my opinion based on my experience, so you don't have to agree with me.
 

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