Best RTT? iKamper is new, looks cool.

[SR5Runner97]

hey everyone, has anyone seen this iKamper thing? it looks pretty cool.

Roughly $2,000 dollars, takes less than a minute to set up... Oh so tempting...

What RTT's do you run? price?

iKamper | Expandable Hard-Shell Roof Top Tent | Skycamp

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/roominroom/skycamp-the-perfect-roof-top-tent-for-travelers-on

 

[4rcybr]

Mine costs about half that. FrontRunner Featherlite.

 

[Vinsil]

I really like this!

 

[SR5Runner97]

I really like this!

and it's not too far of a drive out of the way for us! A solid road trip and we would have it.

 

[SR5Runner97]

Mine costs about half that. FrontRunner Featherlite.

How long does it take to set up?

 

[4rcybr]

How long does it take to set up?

Less than a minute.

 

[SR5Runner97]

Less than a minute.

Awesome! Thanks. Did you have to drill into the roof or did it work with the regular rails?

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[4rcybr]

Awesome! Thanks. Did you have to drill into the roof or did it work with the regular rails?

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I've got an aftermarket roof rack. Not sure how it would work with the stock rails.

For the price of this tent you can get both a roof rack and a tent. *shrugs*

 

[JDM4LO]

After the kickstarter its going for $3k :O You could get three RTT's for that price.


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[Vinsil]

Not saying this is a good deal...but where are all the hard shell 4 person tents for $1000? Please link me! I'd buy one right now....

I'm finding small 2 person ones is all for that price point.

 

[4rcybr]

Not saying this is a good deal...but where are all the hard shell 4 person tents for $1000? Please link me! I'd buy one right now....

I'm finding small 2 person ones is all for that price point.

I've never looked for a hard shell tent. Why do you care if it is hard or soft?

 

[Antman]

I've never looked for a hard shell tent. Why do you care if it is hard or soft?

My wife cares. :lalala:

 

[Vinsil]

I've never looked for a hard shell tent. Why do you care if it is hard or soft?

Ease of setup for one. More protection for the tent. Aerodynamics.

Am I wrong in my thinking through this? Educate me, I'm new to the RTT world.


FYI! I was comparing a CVT Mt. Denali to this. Same price, this one is half the weight nearly and sits lower. Both sleep 4 people.

I dunno.

 

[4rcybr]

My wife cares. :lalala:

*shrugs* might be worth finding out why. My wife likes ours, though she'd probably like a hard-top one as well. Not sure she'd care one way or the other-the other features matter much more.

Ease of setup for one.

No difference hard or soft here-just varies from tent to tent.

More protection for the tent.

Maybe a little bit here, but if something is going to hurt the tent through the cover it probably will no matter if its hard or soft. Also, I know soft covers are easily replaceable-are hard covers?

Aerodynamics.

This is a shape question-not a hard/soft question. Check the height/width on whatever you're comparing. Still, if you're putting a tent on top of a roof rack on top of an SUV I'm not sure why you suddenly care about aerodynamics here. If it matters then the big things really are don't lift your 4runner, and stay away from big tires, don't put a roof rack on, etc.

FYI! I was comparing a CVT Mt. Denali to this. Same price, this one is half the weight nearly and sits lower. Both sleep 4 people.

And this one you linked could be a great option for you. I have no idea, just noting that there's really no difference I can tell (except marketing) between softshell/hardshell tents.

As a side note, I've seen a frontrunner tent for about ~700 on CL recently, and a couple CVT tents as well, don't remember the pricing-but well under retail. If you're willing to wait a bit and hunt should be able to get a good used one for ~60% of retail or so.

 

[mikey's2010SR5]

I have been keeping an eye on this kickstart and I am very close to showing my support.

It is the best of both worlds, hard shell but also folds open for a big sleeping foot print. The other hard shell pop ups are a bit on the small size for me.

My only qualm is the plastic windows. Why not have a mesh?

 

[tigger]

*shrugs* might be worth finding out why. My wife likes ours, though she'd probably like a hard-top one as well. Not sure she'd care one way or the other-the other features matter much more.

He wasn't referring to the tent :wow:

 

[Vinsil]

*shrugs* might be worth finding out why. My wife likes ours, though she'd probably like a hard-top one as well. Not sure she'd care one way or the other-the other features matter much more.


No difference hard or soft here-just varies from tent to tent.



Maybe a little bit here, but if something is going to hurt the tent through the cover it probably will no matter if its hard or soft. Also, I know soft covers are easily replaceable-are hard covers?

This is a shape question-not a hard/soft question. Check the height/width on whatever you're comparing. Still, if you're putting a tent on top of a roof rack on top of an SUV I'm not sure why you suddenly care about aerodynamics here. If it matters then the big things really are don't lift your 4runner, and stay away from big tires, don't put a roof rack on, etc.

And this one you linked could be a great option for you. I have no idea, just noting that there's really no difference I can tell (except marketing) between softshell/hardshell tents.

As a side note, I've seen a frontrunner tent for about ~700 on CL recently, and a couple CVT tents as well, don't remember the pricing-but well under retail. If you're willing to wait a bit and hunt should be able to get a good used one for ~60% of retail or so.

I suck at quoting unlike you...lol. Let me address a few things.

The ease of setup is a bit subjective, but no cover to deal with/store and just pop a few latches and your in business with a hardshell.

The protection I was referring to was more elemental as I believe your right, if something will puncture the soft cover the hard will get a hole too....and a soft cover is easier to replace I'd imagine too.

While I agree that aerodynamics isn't something that is a huge deal but...a 20" square up top will be more of a sail than a hardtop. Yes, mine is larger tires, rack, lifted....not a major concern but still...if it's apples to apples why go backwards?

I'd love a used one. Again, the ones I need are not common (large) so haven't seen one but good point. I'm renting a mt. Denali next month.

Again, priced the same and half the weight, better aerodynamics I'm not seeing the draw to the soft shell at this point. Again...don't own either so spit balling the idea.

 

[tigger]

hey everyone, has anyone seen this iKamper thing? it looks pretty cool.

Roughly $2,000 dollars, takes less than a minute to set up... Oh so tempting...

What RTT's do you run? price?

iKamper | Expandable Hard-Shell Roof Top Tent | Skycamp

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/roominroom/skycamp-the-perfect-roof-top-tent-for-travelers-on

As probably one of the few people on here who has had one, I can fill in a few details.

If you are looking at the largest one, the one I had, it is really heavy. It took 4 of us to move from one vehicle to another.

It has an amazing amount of room in it for a hard shell. The largest one available that I am aware of.

Set up time is fairly quick. Probably 3 to 5 min, even quicker once you get used to it. Tear down is a pain in the ass for one person. It is very difficult to pull down the front as the struts are pretty strong.

Completely securing it for travel can easily take 10 to 15 min for one person to get everything tucked in and buckled down correctly. (mine was the original demo model so they may have improved some of the issues)

The straps are a very weak point in my opinion. There is a lot of stress on those rubber straps and they are not very thick. But I never had a problem with them in my 5000 mile trip.

It has pretty decent aero-dynamics as far as roof top tents go. My average mileage around town and on trips was 15-16mpg without the tent. On my 5000 mile trip with the tent, I averaged 18. Maybe I got lucky with the winds or just driving slower enjoying the scenery but it is what it is.

I didn't really notice it up there until I went around corners a little too fast. You will quickly notice the extra weight up top and will adjust your driving style. This will be the same with any large heavy load on top of a lifted vehicle.

It is pretty comfortable and spacious inside. Since it was just me, I didn't deploy the shelf and had a double thick mattress. I think the thinner mattress might be too thin for a larger person.

The plastic windows are a pain in the butt. But it is nice to have them if it is windy or rainy but you still want to see out.

It has really thick material and will keep you warm in most weather conditions. Might be pretty toasty in extreme heat but my trip was around the PNW in late June/early July and I really didn't have any issues.

I ran a USB cable from the 4runner to a hub in the tent and hooked up a USB fan which worked really well. I have a couple of magnetic pool lights that have a remote which I used for lighting.

There are some pics in my build thread here
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/207663-tiggers-build-mis-adventures-7.html#post2395449

 

[SR5Runner97]

As probably one of the few people on here who has had one, I can fill in a few details.

If you are looking at the largest one, the one I had, it is really heavy. It took 4 of us to move from one vehicle to another.

It has an amazing amount of room in it for a hard shell. The largest one available that I am aware of.

Set up time is fairly quick. Probably 3 to 5 min, even quicker once you get used to it. Tear down is a pain in the ass for one person. It is very difficult to pull down the front as the struts are pretty strong.

Completely securing it for travel can easily take 10 to 15 min for one person to get everything tucked in and buckled down correctly. (mine was the original demo model so they may have improved some of the issues)

The straps are a very weak point in my opinion. There is a lot of stress on those rubber straps and they are not very thick. But I never had a problem with them in my 5000 mile trip.

It has pretty decent aero-dynamics as far as roof top tents go. My average mileage around town and on trips was 15-16mpg without the tent. On my 5000 mile trip with the tent, I averaged 18. Maybe I got lucky with the winds or just driving slower enjoying the scenery but it is what it is.

I didn't really notice it up there until I went around corners a little too fast. You will quickly notice the extra weight up top and will adjust your driving style. This will be the same with any large heavy load on top of a lifted vehicle.

It is pretty comfortable and spacious inside. Since it was just me, I didn't deploy the shelf and had a double thick mattress. I think the thinner mattress might be too thin for a larger person.

The plastic windows are a pain in the butt. But it is nice to have them if it is windy or rainy but you still want to see out.

It has really thick material and will keep you warm in most weather conditions. Might be pretty toasty in extreme heat but my trip was around the PNW in late June/early July and I really didn't have any issues.

I ran a USB cable from the 4runner to a hub in the tent and hooked up a USB fan which worked really well. I have a couple of magnetic pool lights that have a remote which I used for lighting.

There are some pics in my build thread here
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/207663-tiggers-build-mis-adventures-7.html#post2395449

Thanks a lot! Overall do you think it was worth $1,000 more than a good reviewed soft top? Super cool pics. I've been to crater lake and enjoyed that trip! I slept In my 4runner on my platform.

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[tigger]

Thanks a lot! Overall do you think it was worth $1,000 more than a good reviewed soft top? Super cool pics. I've been to crater lake and enjoyed that trip! I slept In my 4runner on my platform.

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I don't know. I had so many issues trying to pack it up, it was frustrating sometimes. Would be much easier with 2 people.

I have never used a soft top tent so can't compare.

I got such a great deal that there was no way I could pass it up.