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U.S. regulators step up probe of Ford Focus

DETROIT, Nov 5 (Reuters) - U.S. vehicle safety regulators have stepped up their investigation into another reported defect involving Ford Motor Co.'s (nyse: F - news - people) troubled Focus compact car, citing complaints of stalling engines.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said on Tuesday it had raised a preliminary investigation into the engine problem to the level of an "engineering analysis," a step that often precedes a recall.

Ford said on Monday it was recalling about 572,795 Focus vehicles from the 2000 and 2001 model years in North America because of problems with a bolt in the front suspension assembly and improperly installed battery cables that can catch fire on models equipped with Zetec engines.

The engine stalling issue is not related to those separate safety recalls, however.

NHTSA said Ford had received 3,274 complaints about the Focus engine problem and added that the stalling had allegedly caused 16 crashes and three injuries.

"The data analysis conducted during the PE (preliminary evaluation) indicates the Focus will stall at all speeds without notice," the government agency said.

The problem was originally thought to involve about 573,585 Focuses from the 2000 and 2001 model years, but NHTSA said it was broadening the scope of its investigation because of complaints about 2002 models as well.

Ford has sought to burnish its quality image as part of a turnaround effort after posting a $5.45 billion loss last year, and it contends it has now fixed many problems with the Focus. But with Monday's announcement it has now issued 11 safety recalls for the vehicle since its introduction in 1999.

Separately, NHTSA said it had also upgraded an investigation into thousands of complaints about engines stalling without warning on Ford's Escape compact sport utility vehicle and the Tribute SUV sold by Ford's Mazda subsidiary.

The complaints involve vehicles from the 2001 and 2002 model years, NHTSA said.

Adding to a litany of vehicle safety and quality issues at Ford, NHTSA said it had also opened an engineering analysis into complaints of engine compartment fires stemming from alleged defects in a speed control deactivation switch on several full-size Ford sedans.

About 1.8 million Town Car, Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis sedans from the 1992-1997 model years were the target of that investigation, NHTSA said.

A spokesman for Ford said the world's No. 2 automaker was aware of the NHTSA investigations and cooperating with safety regulators.
 
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Funny, been using a 2013 Escape for work, and it had to go in for warranty because of random stalling. Guess they still have not fixed the problem.

BTW, it has 50 000 miles on it and needs to be topped up with oil between changes... I have 290 000 miles on my 4Runner and it does not need any oil between changes, and gets the same fuel economy as the Escape...

At Ford, quality is job what? Wait, that is an old one. Built Ford Tough. That is it. :-) Ford has its own class of toughness.
 
I once had a 1996 Mercury Mystque with the lovely Zetec 4 cylinder in it. It had the same stalling issue described for the Focus. It might not stall for 2 weeks or it might stall 10 times on a 5 mile commute. It too, would also stall randomly, no pattern to it. Most of the time it would start right back up but sometimes it wouldn't. Ford actually treated me OK for a while and replaced a whole bunch of parts but nothing really stopped the stalling. Actually, Ford got so frustrated with it, they installed a "little black box" that would capture everything when it stalled. It actually ran great with the box installed and never stalled once. After a month, Ford requested their box back. They pulled it, looked at the data but there were no events on it. A block down the road the car stalled again. I was actually happy when a drunk driver hit me and totaled it. I honestly think some of Ford's vehicles are susceptible to electronic frequency interference. I have seen it myself on some of their vehicles. One truck I worked on would stall if a cb radio was used nearby, another would stall when the electric brake controller was used.

Ford can be downright frustrating to work with though. When I had my 2012 F150 Ecoboost, it was great at first but by 45k it had developed timing chain slap, a nasty cold start knock, excessive blow-by, terrible fuel mileage, loss of power, and some electronic issues. While the service tech and manager acknowledged the issues, Ford engineering would not authorize a real fix for them. It was re-flash after re-flash. I tried explaining to them that a reflash wouldn't solve timing chain slap or a knock. Finally, I got so fed up that I just traded it in.

I also think part of the problem is that they don't do as much real world testing as they should. Ford always claims they do millions of miles of testing but I think the majority of those is in the lab or computer simulation. The other part is that they make them too fast. There's just not enough time for proper quality control.
 
Just read this one! 2009 F150, and Ford said tough for you, we don't make that part your truck needs.

Calgary man finds toughest part of owning 2009 Ford F-150 truck is finding replacement part - Business - CBC News

The mechanic should have tried a a little harder to locate one..

Did a quick search and found 3 dealers here in the states that have one that I think he needs. Depends on options and feature of the truck but there are about 15 different "Modules" it could be....

And it's probably not the Module as they claim, since hot air is only blowing out one side of the dash, it's most likely the pass side blend door actuator. As those are all S**t too!!
 

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