Body swap

lawnjockeynot

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I'm going way out on a limb here. Just looking for thoughts on this idea. I want to put a 1956 f100 body on a 2003 chassis. Wheel base is same, frame width is the same where it matters. Body would fit with only minor metal work. What do you think. Love the look of the old truck and love the way my runner drives.

Any comments would be great.
 
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That sounds pretty sweet, although an older toyota body might be more appropriate. Either way, lets see some pics!
 
would be pretty awesome I think.

Anything is possible if you've got the time and money.
 
Have you measured the body overhang on areas such as wheel wells and rear axle? You want to make sure your tires won't scrub the body or the body interferes with suspension travel, turning, compression, ect ect. What about body mounts, granted you can make your own body mounts, but most of the mount points are reinforced if I remember on body on frame vehicles so you can't exactly throw body mounts whereever you want without reinforcing the body's structure. Another thing you'll need to figure out is engine placement. The firewall and engine bay shape may be different, granted is an old pick-up body so the engine bay size should be okay, but placement may be an issue.

Its doable, but will require extensive fabrication, wiring, and engineering to get done right... by the way, where did you find a '56 body that's not rotting away?
 
Have you measured the body overhang on areas such as wheel wells and rear axle? You want to make sure your tires won't scrub the body or the body interferes with suspension travel, turning, compression, ect ect. What about body mounts, granted you can make your own body mounts, but most of the mount points are reinforced if I remember on body on frame vehicles so you can't exactly throw body mounts whereever you want without reinforcing the body's structure. Another thing you'll need to figure out is engine placement. The firewall and engine bay shape may be different, granted is an old pick-up body so the engine bay size should be okay, but placement may be an issue.

Its doable, but will require extensive fabrication, wiring, and engineering to get done right... by the way, where did you find a '56 body that's not rotting away?

I disagree a bit.. it is a tough job. but ive seen it done many many times.. not as much fabrication as you stated imo.
 
I disagree a bit.. it is a tough job. but ive seen it done many many times.. not as much fabrication as you stated imo.

You've seen someone take a '56 Ford Truck body and mate it to a 120 Platform frame? I don't have the measurements or the body mount locations in front of me so I can't say whether or not they line up well, nor do I know if the wheel wells and openings are proper to prevent rubbing and restriction.

Anyone can throw a body on a frame, that doesn't mean its done right. Not saying you or anyone can't do it right, just that it takes a bit more foresight than "slap some bigger bolts and some hockey pucks on it and you're good to go."

I'm thinking of how I myself would do it, meaning the body will be tucked as close to the frame as possible for balance and handling (not on a 6" body lift because I am too lazy to tuck and fit the body to the frame properly." The '56 body needs to be inspected and reinforced where it needs to be for various reason ranging from crash safety & repairing corrosion damage to flexing & rigidity on mounting points. The body needs to be trimmed, adjusted, and tweaked where the suspension, drivetrain, and other components don't meet properly and/or restrict proper function. The firewall and engine bay need to be adjusted to mate the vehicle's engine and such properly (in my case I am thinking how to fit a 2UZ-FE in the engine bay.)

When I say "extensive fabrication, wiring, and engineering" it doesn't mean you have to have a PHD from Harvard in mechanical engineering. I am saying it requires research, measurements, trial and error, fabrication, money, and lots and lots of time to do properly. Many famous fabricators aren't rocket scientists; they just know good work takes a lot more time thinking than it does wrenching. Even the guys who can slap stuff together are doing a ton of thinking before they make a cut, they just have a lot more experience and stored data in their head so they are confident enough to make a cut within a few thousandsth without laying it out before hand.
 
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You've seen someone take a '56 Ford Truck body and mate it to a 120 Platform frame? I don't have the measurements or the body mount locations in front of me so I can't say whether or not they line up well, nor do I know if the wheel wells and openings are proper to prevent rubbing and restriction.

Anyone can throw a body on a frame, that doesn't mean its done right. Not saying you or anyone can't do it right, just that it takes a bit more foresight than "slap some bigger bolts and some hockey pucks on it and you're good to go."

I'm thinking of how I myself would do it, meaning the body will be tucked as close to the frame as possible for balance and handling (not on a 6" body lift because I am too lazy to tuck and fit the body to the frame properly." The '56 body needs to be inspected and reinforced where it needs to be for various reason ranging from crash safety & repairing corrosion damage to flexing & rigidity on mounting points. The body needs to be trimmed, adjusted, and tweaked where the suspension, drivetrain, and other components don't meet properly and/or restrict proper function. The firewall and engine bay need to be adjusted to mate the vehicle's engine and such properly (in my case I am thinking how to fit a 2UZ-FE in the engine bay.)

When I say "extensive fabrication, wiring, and engineering" it doesn't mean you have to have a PHD from Harvard in mechanical engineering. I am saying it requires research, measurements, trial and error, fabrication, money, and lots and lots of time to do properly. Many famous fabricators aren't rocket scientists; they just know good work takes a lot more time thinking than it does wrenching. Even the guys who can slap stuff together are doing a ton of thinking before they make a cut, they just have a lot more experience and stored data in their head so they are confident enough to make a cut within a few thousandsth without laying it out before hand.

all I meant was with the word extensive. frame swaps are pretty common in my main genre of custom cars. ive never done one personally, but ive helped friends do a couple. Last car I helped with was turning a Cadillac Fleetwood brougham 4 door into a 2 door convertible, most people wouldn't believe how much of the car needs to be reinforced to properly do this conversion. plus fully wrapping(reinforcing) the frame. But other than the word extensive I completetly agree with everything else you stated.
 
A guy here in Oklahoma swapped a 1965 Mustang body on a Bronco frame. Used to run it on the sand dunes in the NW part of the state. Defiantly made you look twice!
 
A guy here in Oklahoma swapped a 1965 Mustang body on a Bronco frame. Used to run it on the sand dunes in the NW part of the state. Defiantly made you look twice!

my best friends dad did a 70s chevelle wagon on a suburban frame, chevy stroker motor, reinforced frame, lift, locking front and rear diffs.. thing was a beast.. would lay rubber for 20 yards like nothing, even with the offroad meats.
 
When I say extensive in this case I'm thinking in terms of shop time, i.e. if it takes more than about 8hrs/1 work day to design/fabricate/finish finer details then its "extensive."

Like I said, its a project that takes a lot of time in planning, cutting, welding, ect... I know some people don't think of a couple days of work as "extensive" or a "a lot of time" (I miss having that luxury... :crybaby:) but in my mind I'm thinking like it was in my stall at work.
 
A guy here in Oklahoma swapped a 1965 Mustang body on a Bronco frame. Used to run it on the sand dunes in the NW part of the state. Defiantly made you look twice!

Makes me think about this beaut I spotted in Del Norte, CO.

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Makes me think about this beaut I spotted in Del Norte, CO.

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Thats a 68 but I bet it's on an old Bronco frame too. With time and money you can do a lot. If it keeps you out of the bars at night, doesn't make the wife mad, and its not your job. It can be fun. Don't ever plan to half of the money out of project that you put in either.
 
I used to own a 68 convert and still own 2 65 Fastbacks and 64.5 convert. Anyway I was looking at the Ford hub locks and the early 60's Bronco is very close to the same size. My friend and I subbed a 1949 Dodge pickup on a 73 Ford F-150 and it turned out great. You have to do a swap like your talking about to get a steerable front end in an old truck. Most old trucks had king pins, crap hard springs and no breaks.

And if your serious I have an 03 sport, V8, rwd I am salvaging.
 
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