Centre Diff on 5th Gen?
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my14runner
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You are correct, kind of while the limited isn't AWD the limited is the only model with FT 4WD. Trail, Pro, and SR-5 all have part time 4WD
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Engineer
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.....the presence of a low range?
1engineer
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Ability to lock front to rear for fixed split. Check out the link in my signature lol.
marshal
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The traditional part time transfer case will return you better fuel milage, is simpler (with hand thrown mechanical linkage) and some would argue stronger. As well, the trim packs like the trail, get a superior, more aggressive ATRAC programming borrowed from the Trail Teams FJ Cruiser, and a rear locking diff. The limited only has a center locking diff and the standard (still good) ATRAC.
I would keep the 80, it's cooler anyway.
I would keep the 80, it's cooler anyway.
I've found that the center diff makes handling on snowy roads more predictable. It's less likely to understeer. I would highly recommend it if you can afford it.
I spend a lot of time on snowy tight winding mountain passes with inconsistent road conditions. Snow and ice in the shade and north facing, dry ground on southern faces and sunny areas. Full time 4WD with consostant power delivery and no drivetrain binding without any binding durin the constantly varying conditions was a must for me. I'd like some of the features of the Trail but the Limited was a better fit for me because of being full time.
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wfo9
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You can clearly get by with part time, but full time would be nice to have if you lived in the ice and snow.... You can always add lockers to the limited if you want to get crazy. The rest of the junk on the trail (besides the rear locker and better angles for approach and departure compared to limited) is pretty useless IMHO.
Limited also comes with 20" wheels. So, not so great for off-road.
Limited also comes with 20" wheels. So, not so great for off-road.
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The difference isn't significant.
Monkeymenno
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Yeah, about 1 mpg, about 5%, $3 or $4 a tank, $150 to $200 a year in fuel if you do 15k miles a year.
Thanks for all the great replies, they are very much appreciated.
I love the truck. But man, it's just about to turn 20 and has 220K miles. It is starting to be hard to handle the maintenance load.
For my next truck, I pretty much see my choices as a T4R, magical low-mileage clean 80 from some place like Arizona, or import something. None of which are choices with compromises that make me happy.:redbrick:
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marshal;1959283I said:
I love the truck. But man, it's just about to turn 20 and has 220K miles. It is starting to be hard to handle the maintenance load.
For my next truck, I pretty much see my choices as a T4R, magical low-mileage clean 80 from some place like Arizona, or import something. None of which are choices with compromises that make me happy.:redbrick:
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03_4x4Runner
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Just be careful where you buy a vehicle from Arizona. The high elevation regions like Flagstaff get snow and salted roads. I have seen vehicles as rusted out as I saw growing up in Ohio there.
bimrunner
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Keep your 80 as well if you get the runner. I have both, wheel both, love both. My LE can keep up with the 80 on all but the knarliest rocks (sfa versus ifs). The runner is way more comfortable on road and high speed offroad (washboard).
For the $ you'd dump in a new runner, do an LS swap to a new 6.0 LS engine and drivetrain. Cost you about 10-12k all in and you end up with a nice strong v8 and all the goodies your used to on the 80!!! It's what I plan to do with my 80 someday in the next couple years. A few Mud vendors do it all in for that price...
SouthernSS
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Im just sayin.....if you want v8 power, full time 4wd, heated leather seats and a center diff lock, go with the GX.
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+1. I put 100k on one and it was a great truck. I miss the powertrain, for sure.
I don't miss the barn door, lexus badges, gas mileage.
Coyotearms
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My first post, so not allowed to start a thread. And I tried to hunt down something in your other posts w/o success.
Thinking of buying a new 4Runner and have a center diff question that was not clarified in this thread or anywhere else I could find (even in Toyota's "2016 4Runner Product Information").
Just as I know the transfer case on 4x4 non-Limited ratio is 1.0/2.566, what is it (or are they) for the center diff on the Limited. In L4L if it is not comparable that of the non-Limited with 4x4 engaged, wouldn't the Limited be far less capable off-road? The Torque Split data does not include anything regarding differences between H4L and L4L. If the answer has to do something with A-Trac, I still don't think I understand what is going on without a gear ratio change for greater "overall" torque when crawling.
Bourbonator
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A couple of posts in this thread have me a bit confused. One, stating that the a-trac programming in the limited is "less aggressive" than that of the trail. Another claimed that the t case of the limited was geared differently from the trail and sr5. I did a quick Google search and couldn't find any supporting information. The official Toyota product info says nothing of the difference in a-trac, and simply stated the t case ratio for the sr5 and trail, and nothing for the limited.
Can anyone chime in with some facts?
Can anyone chime in with some facts?