Cross Lander USA

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It is hard to belive they are serious about bringing this thing into the States. I remember the late 80's when we got Alfa Romeo, Diahatsu (a part of Toyota), Daewoo, Hyundai, Kia, Sterling (a part of Honda) and Yugo. Where are they now? Hyundai is still in business after their disaster with the early cars and Kia is now owned by Hyundai. Everyone else is gone.

Some of these compaines were backed by Toyota and Honda and they are gone. It is hard to understand how a Romanian car built in Brazil would even has a slight chance of making it. I doubt they have the resources to maintian a level here we are used to. Even if the SUV is very good, I would give it a 98% of failure. My Dad bought a great car back in 1960 called a Borgward. That is the car I learn to drive on, anyone even remember a Borgward?:rolleyes:

Price is $17,995 if your interested:http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/index.spy?cmd=view&artid=12375
 
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Hmm, at $17-18K, it is priced within the mini-SUV crowd. This is not a bad buy for an off-roader who wants more room than a Jeep Wrangler. Hopefully, it will have decent reliability...probably not though.:(
 
Cross Lander 4x4 Finally Coming to America

MIAMI - Cross Lander announced today that it has completed and received U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) certification for the company's 4x4 Sport Recreational Vehicle (SRV), the Cross Lander 244X. While the company already produces and sells vehicles on the world market, the new vehicle is the first and only vehicle produced in Romania certified to enter the United States.

"With the completion of EPA's testing of the 244X, we are now finalizing production plans to introduce this vehicle to the U.S.market," said John Perez, Cross Lander's founder and chairman. "This is a major milestone for Cross Lander. The addition of the U.S. market will only help to strengthen our overall worldwide operations."

Cross Lander is the only world vehicle manufacturer that is aggressively targeting the 4x4 off-road market. Cross Lander already has an extensive dealership network in place and will be introducing a new line of SRVs that will be sold under the Cross Lander brand name, beginning with the Cross Lander 244X.

The Cross Lander 244X, which is based on a military line of vehicles that have been produced for more than 50 years in Eastern Europe, is set to make its U.S. debut in about six months. The vehicle is expected to sell starting in the low $20,000.

The Cross Lander 244X is aimed at the 4x4 enthusiasts, a segment that has been virtually overlooked by those manufacturers competing in the luxury sport utility vehicle space. The 244X is a no-nonsense, no-frills vehicle that offers consumers in the off-road market segment a vehicle with both personality and power, at an affordable price, which is something that Bill Goetze, General Manager of Cross Lander, feels will allow it to find its niche in a crowded automotive market.

"Cross Lander's new 4x4 SRV is designed clearly for those drivers who want to take their vehicles off-road and not worry about 'keeping them pretty'," said Goetze. "Off-roaders, hunters, fishermen and campers will find the vehicle fits their needs in the SRV segment, at a price substantially less than those luxury vehicles that claim to be off-road vehicles."

While the Cross Lander brand is new to the U.S., it is based on the Aro S.A. vehicle that possesses a solid track record for quality, performance and endurance, much of which was garnered from use by international military services. Aro S.A. (Auto Romania) is the national Romanian automotive company that has been manufacturing off-road vehicles and light trucks for more than 50 years.

Last year Cross Lander reached an agreement with the Romanian government to purchase the Aro S.A. 4x4 vehicle manufacturing facility as part of the Romanian government's efforts to privatize its auto industry. The agreement was a culmination of a nine-year effort to solidify Cross Lander's commitment to the Romanian government and the employees working at the plant.

Cross Lander officials have built a U.S. dealer network that now consists of more than 140 dealers. Officials have also developed all the systems for parts, service, warranty, training and communications.

Cross Lander already produces vehicles for sale in the global market, specifically in Europe, Africa and South America.

About Cross Lander

Cross Lander is the only world automotive manufacturer in the United States that is aggressively targeting the 4x4, off-road sport recreation vehicle (SRV) market. Cross Lander is headquartered in Miami, Florida, and has offices and a manufacturing plant in Campulung, Romania.
For more information please visit www.CrossLander4x4.com
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Product Facts

General
- The Cross Lander 244X is the first model in a new line of affordable, rugged sport vehicles from Cross Lander USA.

- The Cross Lander 244X is the first truly affordable mid-sized sport recreation vehicle (SRV), with rugged off-road capabilities, fulfilling the needs and expectations of serious off-road enthusiasts.

- The Cross Lander 244X is a new breed of all-terrain vehicle that is not for everyone. A no nonsense, no frills, off-road sport vehicle.

- The Cross Lander 244X is made with a full chassis, putting it in a class that includes only the most powerful off-road vehicles on the market. All others currently available in the United States are made with a unibody design, which is not nearly as strong because they are designed to be lightweight. True off-road consumers demand a full chassis.

- The Cross Lander 244X is based on the Auto Romania (ARO), a vehicle that possesses a solid track record for quality, performance and endurance. ARO (Auto Romania) is the national Romanian automotive company that has been manufacturing rugged, off-road vehicles and light trucks for more than 50 years.

- The Cross Lander 244X complies with all U.S. National Highway Transportation Standards Association standards as well as Department of Transportation and Environmental Protection Agency regulations.

Specifications
- Engine:
- Type: 4.0 liter V-6
- Aspiration: EFI
- No. of Cylinders: 6
- Bore & Stoke (mm): 3.95 x 3.32
- Compression Ratio: 9.7:1
- Maximum Horsepower: 207
- Max Torque: 238
- R.P.M @ Max Torque: 3000

Transmission:
- Wheel Drive: Permanent 4x2; Part Time 4x4
- Type: 5-speed; Manual and/or Automatic
- No. of Gears: 5 + 1 synchronized
- Ratio of Gears: 3.40; 2.05; 1.31; 1.00; 0.79; Reverse 3.40

Suspension:
- Front Axle: Coil Springs & Shock Absorbers
- Rear Axle: Leaf Springs & Shock Absorbers
- Differential: Symmetrical
- Ratio: 3.73
- Brakes: Hydraulic Dual Circuit, Power Assisted
- Front Axle: Ventilated Disc
- Rear Axle: Drum
- Power Steering: Hydraulic Power Assisted
- Turning Radius: 41 Feet
- Max. Slope (degrees): 40

Dimensions:
- Length: 178 in.
- Width: 72.2 in.
- Height: 73 in.
- Wheel Base: 102 in.
- Ground Clearance: 7.8 in.

Fuel Consumption
- City: 17 MPG
- Highway: 22 MPG
- Fuel Capacity: 25 Gallons

Trailer Towing Capacity:
- With Trailer Brakes: 5,049
- Without Trailer Brakes: 1,650

Options:
- AM/FM CD Radio
- Tube Side Steps
- Safari Roof Rack
- Rear Tail Light Guards
- Air Conditioning
- Fog Lamp Package
- Brush Guard
- Air Induction Snorkel
- 15-Inch Alloy Rims

Colors:
- White
- Metallic Green
- Metallic Silver
- Metallic Red
 
These people are really serious about marketing this SUV as a true off-roader for off-roaders...see their home site:

http://www.crosslander4x4.com/

Their competition will likely be Jeep Wrangler and Nissan Xterra. Cross Lander = Xterra/Defender body + Wrangler's technology (which is bare minimum).
 
ToyotaDoodz said:
Where do you guys find all this obscure stuff and the time to look for it? :D:D

I have my secret sites that i visit to keep myself updated. What?!! Did you think that i have no life?? Oh nevermind, i don't. :(
 
I have to say I actually like the way it looks. Toyota specifically, but others as well, make similar vehicles for the international market (not the US) and I've always been in love with them. They're Land Cruisers (with extended beds or the smaller version looking like this). Its got the boxy offroad safari look I like about trucks, I don't think offroad SUVs are suppose to be bubble looking.

Hope to see it around soon enough, and at 20k reasonably stocked it'd be an interesting option for a new car... providing they can prove to be reliable and worth it.
 
ToyotaDoodz said:
I didn't know they had vehicle stuff on hot_cheerleaders.com :D:D j/k

You're wrong! There's no "_" in the link! It's all one word! Geez, the things i have to teach you guys!;):
 
94yotarunner said:
Hope to see it around soon enough, and at 20k reasonably stocked it'd be an interesting option for a new car... providing they can prove to be reliable and worth it.

It's gonna be a tough sell in the US in my opinion. Off-roading crowd is small and scattered. And forget it if this gets bad press due to poor crash testing results (likely) and poor JD Powers reliability (very likely). At most, it will be short fad.

But, like you, i really could dig something like this...capable, cheap, relatively roomy off-roader. Now, if they can keep the price around or below $20K, then it could sell well enough to survive a few years in the US.
 
the gestation period has been longer

than an elephant's. I've read about the Aro Cross Lander back in 1996 when the now defunct Open Road Magazine talked about it. While it sounds promising, smart money would put it near the Yugo in terms of likelihood of success. YOu may never see a full Aro dealership, but may be scattered around as add on to other dealers-------Kia/Aro of Bunghole, Arkansas! Visit Bunghole Kia Hyundai Fiat and Aro, We've Got Them!

Using Wrangler's technology is not a real badge of confidence. While Romania has been building trucks for 50 years, that only means the Commie block has been making trucks regardless of what a POS it is since it was a state runned operation and it kept workers busy and paid so they would not be potential counter reactionaries. Commie block countries had no concerns such as competition and quality control since ther was no competition, and Romanians would takes an Aro that might work days a week since they only work 3 days a week. Remember the old Commie joke, they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.

Marketing to true outdoors men require a machine tha if not pretty and luxo equipped to be reliable nad durable. It is being out in the boonies that the vehicle must be able to make it back in bad roads, lousy conditions, slop and muck, but still can fire up, still turn and brake--and not break, and get the mback to civilization. It is because outdoors folks need simple easy to repair parts so if they need ot haul it to some gas station in Bunghole Arkansas they can use the same part as any old Chevy or Ford instead of waiting for some Roumanian speciality store to ship it out by 2006.

For you old farts out there, remember taht old ditty in Plymouth commercials....Me and my Aro......Me and my Aro.....

Ok, enough of my rants.
 
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I had a sharp tweak of interest when I saw the turbo diesel, but then was disappointed when it turned out to be just a gasser. I bet a gasser with horrible mpg.

What the market needs is more diesel engine choice for the 4X4 crowd. So far only the 2005 Liberty will be available, and that just isn't my cup of tea (too small, not fond of the looks either). If Toyota came out with a 4runner with diesel, I would be the first at the dealership.

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This post should end this thread. Today (February 4, 2007) I read in the Atlanta paper that John Perez's idea of getting the Cross Lander is dead in the water. Here is a quote from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

"He pulled the plug in 2005, mired in lawsuits with the Romanian government and complaining of "huge corruption"."

The paper goes onto say he is trying to import Mahindra & Mahindra, SUV's and trucks that happen to me made in India. If you ask me another dumb idea.

I do expect some new cars from China, I think India has a snow balls chance in (well you know).
 

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