Cummins 2.8L diesel on sale...who wants to be the first?

[theriddler]

Sales to begin for the R2.8 Turbo Diesel!

Is anyone considering this swap? Man it would be fun to follow along the build process and watch this one. Hopefully the aftermarket catches on and gets us some tranny adaptors and such.

 

[sleepydad]

I have been watching and I would love to try it. weight, power wise I think this would be a great swap. your not going to blow away anybody off the line for sure.

horsepower sells, torque wins the race and this should provide great low end torque.

you would have to replace the fuel system pump?, lines for sure.

 

[theriddler]

I don't have the work space to even attempt this right now but i hope in the future when i get a garage built i can. I would really like to see some adaptors built so i can still use a Toyota tranny. I just don't like seeing a lot of different auto brand parts on a Yota...it's hard to call it one when you have a GM 350 engine, Jeep transmission, etc. I work for Cummins but i'm a Toyota guy so this is particularly interesting for me. Yeah some work would have to be done to the fuel pump and things like that but those are just details. Some people are better at this than me but my hardest thing would be the electrical and accessories part of it. Someone is going to do this in a Tacoma, 4Runner, or Land Cruiser and i can't wait to watch. Maybe with the interest in this engine and the Duramax in the Colorado, Toyota will finally get off their butts and give us a diesel of our own.

 

[absalom]

HHNNNNNGGGGGG .... so hard right now!

 

[turbo8]

Why can't we have the Toyota 1GD-FTV?
175 hp
332 lbf·ft

 

[sleepydad]

[MENTION=94914]turbo8[/MENTION] diesel toys in TX has done it(d4d) and will do it for you. About $24K with a 24 month lead time and $18K down up front to get on the list.

when I talked to them last year about doing it, sourcing the engines is the big lead time. not sure where they get them but they are used so... not a crate motor setup. think they get 1/2 clips from over seas.

I think realistically unless gas was $5-6/gallon it's just not worth the cost of the diesel engine. in most of the world they pay that much for gas per gallon and it seems to make diesel a better option.

pretty much Venezuela they pay .04/gallon is the only place where gas is cheaper than the US.

 

[absalom]

Lol, you don't do a $24k diesel swap for the cost savings, trust me on that.

 

[Scramble]

I remember when someone here was going to do a VW diesel swap. :lol:

 

[absalom]

I remember when someone here was going to do a VW diesel swap. :lol:

I hate that guy. Word has it he's moving to Germany in a year and will have access to a bevy of factory diesel options. My money says he doesn't follow through.

 

[sleepydad]

[MENTION=79826]absalom[/MENTION] what I mean is for Toyota to offer a factory option, gas in the US would need to be more expensive. If gas stays cheap it's not worth the extra cost of the deisel setup. it's not that Toyota can't release their d4d here, it's they don't feel consumers would pay the extra cost. My understanding is the extra cost mostly comes from extra emissions rules.

The only people who pay somebody to swap an engine for $24k are enthusiasts. It's not about saving money at all. 100% agree with that.

 

[rkymtnman]

I really wish there were more diesel options from the manufacturers. I have always been a diesel fan and have owned 3 different duramax powered pick ups. I spend nearly 50% of my time in Italy for business and it seems that 9 out of 10 vehicles over there are diesel. Every car I have rented is a 6 speed manual with a diesel.

I spent a solid year planning a 6BT swap in to my FJ80. There was decent support for this and it had been done several times prior. The main issue for me ended up being government regulations. I live in an area that requires emissions testing. Since Toyota never offered a diesel-equipped FJ80 in the US market, there was seemingly no way to get it emissions tested even though the 6BT would produce better results than the 1FZ-FE.

I love the torque of a diesel and wish we had more options here in the US.

 

[ToyoT4R]

I remember when someone here was going to do a VW diesel swap. :lol:

If he was doing the VW V10 diesel it would be awesome but probably wouldn't fit though.

 

[absalom]

If he was doing the VW V10 diesel it would be awesome but probably wouldn't fit though.

Delete 6 of those cylinders and you'd be close.

 

[Magmotor]

I hate that guy. Word has it he's moving to Germany in a year and will have access to a bevy of factory diesel options. My money says he doesn't follow through.

Here's a guy that did it and is selling his rig...thought you might like to see it..
https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/tdi-diesel-4runner-4x4/6320032973.html

 

[octanejunkie]

Here's a guy that did it and is selling his rig...thought you might like to see it..
https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/tdi-diesel-4runner-4x4/6320032973.html

He doesn't mention the fact you can't get tags for it nor will it pass a smog test, but hey, it's only $6K

 

[absalom]

He doesn't mention the fact you can't get tags for it nor will it pass a smog test, but hey, it's only $6K

Why couldn't you get tags for it? And why wouldn't it pass smog?

 

[JohnMc]

It's probably a little less strict in Florida, as compared to California.

Here in MO there's no emission testing at all on pre-OBD2 (1996) cars, so that would just have to pass a basic safety inspection, no issues with the diesel swap at all.

 

[rkymtnman]

Why couldn't you get tags for it? And why wouldn't it pass smog?

Guy in Denver posted a sweet FJ60 with a 6bt conversion about 4 years ago...maybe less. He moved here with it and couldn't get plates for it because he couldn't get it past (not "to pass") emissions - reportedly because there was never any such thing as a "diesel FJ60".

Now take a late 90's suburban and do a 6BT conversion - no issues because there was a "diesel suburban" available in the US.

It is totally screwy and obtuse. Unless something has changed, at least here in Colorado it seemed near impossible to get a diesel converted FJ80 (or 60, t4r, etc) plated.

 

[absalom]

I'm somewhat close with the main supervisor over at the diesel technical station here in Denver, and the rules, as I understand are this:

- No cross classing (can't put truck engine in car, for example)
- Engine must be newer than car that's receiving it
- All emission controls must be intact. Cat, OBD ports, O2 sensors, CEL, EPA certs, etc etc.
- Engine must be originally a road going engine. No generator or tractor transplants.

I already had official sign-off for my TDI project long before I scrapped it. This was a 1999 Toyota 4runner receiving a 2005 VW TDI motor. All emission controls and certs were to be transferred. Would have been 100% street legal here in Colorado. In fact, I've heard Colorado's emission laws are stricter than CA, and I would anticipate no issues whatsoever titling the above vehicle in the state of CA.

 

[octanejunkie]

Depends on who does the inspection, because they can fail you on the visual even if everything else passes - they are looking for people that jury-rig their failing vehicles to pass.

Since there is no factory diesel 4runner I hazard a guess one will have a hard time passing a smog test since the test is linked to the vehicle vin and factory profile correlated against state emissions standards.

Or I could be wrong af