Hank its your 4runner and you should be able to do what you want. Doubt you will ever have a problem with your OCI and Toyota. If you do and they want to see your records of servicing the vehicle then you "could" have a problem if they want to press the matter. But I doubt that will ever happen. I've had 25+ cars in my life and have never been questioned on a warranty issue that required me proving I did the OCI based on the warranty requirements.
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Hank
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from past research, synthetic oil has a different characteristic than conventional oil. The compounds/molecules in synthetic will outperform dino oil in extreme hot & cold operating temperatures and won't breakdown as easily. Thus, it will outlast dino oil. It makes sense as the 4R uses syn diff oil which will last for a long time unless you're towing, etc. In reference to the sludge issue, I don't believe it is true for all Toyota engines, just certain ones. I knew about the sludge problem before buying my '04 4R. If Toy had a sludge problem with the 4R, then why would they recommend a 5k OCI instead of 3750 or 3.5k? My mechanic's wife drives a '99 Sienna and used to change the oil every 3-3.5k miles, but when the sludge problem/TSB was discovered, they changed the OCI to 2.5k miles.
BTW: I LOVE my '04 4R and I plan on keeping her for 15+ years and well over 300k miles. I always make sure every service is performed and done correctly. If I had only plan on keeping her for 6-8 years, I wouldn't bother w/syn oil, etc. My other vehicle is a '93 Nissan Quest (yeah, a minivan, but I use it mainly for work) which was handed down to me by my parents w/20k on the odo. Now she has about 165k miles and still purrs like new. I'm the kind of person that notices every ding, scratch, sputter, and abnormal sound & vibration in my vehicles. It's nice having a mechanic who you can trust to do the repairs. I take my Quest in every time there is anything remotely wrong w/her. Bad thing is that there's no comparison when it comes to resale value. My friend's (mechanic's son) '95 4R, which cost $500 less than my '93 Quest when new, is worth so much more now if we both were to sell our vehicles. Nissan is good, but Toyota is better, IMO.
BTW: I LOVE my '04 4R and I plan on keeping her for 15+ years and well over 300k miles. I always make sure every service is performed and done correctly. If I had only plan on keeping her for 6-8 years, I wouldn't bother w/syn oil, etc. My other vehicle is a '93 Nissan Quest (yeah, a minivan, but I use it mainly for work) which was handed down to me by my parents w/20k on the odo. Now she has about 165k miles and still purrs like new. I'm the kind of person that notices every ding, scratch, sputter, and abnormal sound & vibration in my vehicles. It's nice having a mechanic who you can trust to do the repairs. I take my Quest in every time there is anything remotely wrong w/her. Bad thing is that there's no comparison when it comes to resale value. My friend's (mechanic's son) '95 4R, which cost $500 less than my '93 Quest when new, is worth so much more now if we both were to sell our vehicles. Nissan is good, but Toyota is better, IMO.
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Hank, I'm sure you are right about synthetic, go here and these guys will prove it to you with UOA www.bobistheoilguy.com I think why Toyota went from the 3750 OCI for type I driving (city and short trips, dusty conditions) and 7500 OCI for type II driving (mostly highway, no dusty conditions) is because they set up their intervals for dino oil useage and they no longer wanted to leave it to the drivers/owners to determine what condition their vehicle was being used under. Example you could have a owner driving in 100+ degree dusty weather in Arizonia and change their dino oil every 7500 miles (that would be pushing a dino oil) so Toyota decided to make it 5000 mile OCI to make sure they would be within the limits of the API SM rated 5w30 dino oil and they wouldn't have any lubrication problems and take the subjective driving conditions out of owners hands. None of the current Toyota engines that are being used in our vehicles has any type of sludge issue.
yabedude
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Pitbull said:
Another site:
http://www.trustmymechanic.com/motoroil.html
From there is a link to some free info to this PDF:
http://www.trustmymechanic.com/motor-oil-bible.pdf
Very interesting reading. In addition to loads of what seems to be useful information, pages 145-150 of the motor-oil-bible.pdf contain CHRISTIAN propoganda -- go figure. I guess that's where the proverbial reference to 'bible' comes in. The charts at the end of the guide contain loads or ratings.
