Diesel engine crate option

SilverRidgeRunner1

SilverRidgeRunner1

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It appears Cummins has created a drop in crate option to replace high mileage gasoline engine looks pretty straight forward has anyone seen this or have any opinions of Cummins
https://www.cummins.com/engines/repower
https://expeditionportal.com/old-dogs-new-tricks-testing-cummins-r2-8-turbo-diesel-crate-engine/

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that's awesome, I ve been looking at it for a while the crate motor is like $8999 but you get a discount before oct 5th.
Use discount code “torque” at checkout through Friday, October 5, 2018 to receive $310 off the R2.8 Turbo Diesel, now with 310 LB-FT of torque!
the whole set up rough estimate around 20-25 grand. Out sourcing to a professional builder there times as much.
This motor in the 25th edition 4runner would be fantastic.
 
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SilverRidgeRunner1 said:
It appears Cummins has created a drop in crate option to replace high mileage gasoline engine looks pretty straight forward has anyone seen this or have any opinions of Cummins
https://www.cummins.com/engines/repower
https://expeditionportal.com/old-dogs-new-tricks-testing-cummins-r2-8-turbo-diesel-crate-engine/

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You might want to check on things about this engine. You get a 0 mile 90 day warranty for a brand new engine. This engine also seems to have a terrible reputation. I researched it a lot and I have spent some time on the phone with advanced adapters about transmissions, If your up for tossing your engine and transmission and drive shafts and transfer case and... it’s not a drop in crate engine.

If you own a Jeep this is a great option. If you can afford a 30k project and want to custom build a truck around this engine and your ok with a 90 day warranty?

You would be better off having deisel toys down in Texas put a d4d into your truck for 30k
 
LittleCaesar said:
Being Chinese built I guess Cummins felt they needed to offer such.

I would rather shoehorn in a 4bt....
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Oh hell no, the R2.8 is light years ahead of that old paint shaker. The R2.8 is relatively proven already abroad, but I can understand the apprehension considering the country of origin.

spartacus said:
the Cummins comes with a two-year/2,600-hour warranty. I've looked at the 1kd-ftv as well.
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Unfortunately, the gray market D4-D wouldn't technically be legal here for some time.

sleepydad said:
You might want to check on things about this engine. You get a 0 mile 90 day warranty for a brand new engine. This engine also seems to have a terrible reputation. I researched it a lot and I have spent some time on the phone with advanced adapters about transmissions, If your up for tossing your engine and transmission and drive shafts and transfer case and... it’s not a drop in crate engine.

If you own a Jeep this is a great option. If you can afford a 30k project and want to custom build a truck around this engine and your ok with a 90 day warranty?

You would be better off having deisel toys down in Texas put a d4d into your truck for 30k
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Or just swap in a BHW for sub $5k. Same power with a very light tune, and parts a plenty locally.
 
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absalom said:
Oh hell no, the R2.8 is light years ahead of that old paint shaker. The R2.8 is relatively proven already abroad, but I can understand the apprehension considering the country of origin.


Unfortunately, the gray market D4-D wouldn't technically be legal here for some time.


Or just swap in a BHW for sub $5k. Same power with a very light tune, and parts a plenty locally.
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Do u feel like this would be a solid option, I was more impressed with the wiring harness for some reason it appeared solid.
 
Not quite sure where the 20-25 grand number comes from. I'm willing to bet that it can be done substantially cheaper than that if it's $9k MSRP.
 
twowheel said:
Not quite sure where the 20-25 grand number comes from. I'm willing to bet that it can be done substantially cheaper than that if it's $9k MSRP.
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fuel system?
exhaust? 3" all the way I would think. prob taking $1200 for a nice custom job unless you can do it yourself
transmission?
transfer-case?
drive shafts?
flanges?
engine mounts?
custom framework to swap out transmissions mounts and engine mounts?
where is that inter-cooler going to go?
new radiator for sure, fan shroud? custom, custom, custom $$$
custom intake for sure and where is that going to go?
gauge cluster?
custom electric work I would think there would be some involved.
custom AC lines and a capture/recharge for sure

braking system is about the only thing that probably can just work. depending on the year of T4R

I would think all of these items and probably more need to be custom done.

I love the idea of it but... and I wanted to do it at one point but then I started to figure out all the other things that needed to be done. then I swapped a $500 salvage engine into my truck and continued on with my life. sad but true.

if you can do all the work yourself I would still think it's going to run you 15K min to do a solid professional job and have a reliable rig. average human will pay at lest 20-25K for this to be done.
 
absalom said:
Oh hell no, the R2.8 is light years ahead of that old paint shaker. The R2.8 is relatively proven already abroad, but I can understand the apprehension considering the country of origin.


Unfortunately, the gray market D4-D wouldn't technically be legal here for some time.


Or just swap in a BHW for sub $5k. Same power with a very light tune, and parts a plenty locally.
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Cummins R2.8 & 4BT | Diesel Toys® |TOYOTA DIESEL CONVERSION EXPERTS

these guys who have been doing Toyota diesel swaps for a while have had some things to say about the R2.8
 
I have seen a 4bt swap into a k-5 blazer. It was nice but don’t ride in it if one has dentures.

Not worth the money IMHO unless your uncle is name Warren B from Omaha......
 
sleepydad said:
Cummins R2.8 & 4BT | Diesel Toys® |TOYOTA DIESEL CONVERSION EXPERTS

these guys who have been doing Toyota diesel swaps for a while have had some things to say about the R2.8
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DieselToyz only deals in OEM gray market so they say what suits their narrative. Don’t believe me? Read what they have to say about TDI swaps. But I won’t fight you here; I wouldn’t use either an R2.8 or 4BT personally. Why? Because I have no experience with those motors. However, as I mentioned earlier, the BHW is direct injection, super reliable (once BSM/cam are sorted) capable of making gobs of power, and readily available for under $1,000.

The best part? It’s actually legal in all 3rd gens! Unlike every single engine that DieselToys sells, and the 4BT, and the R2.8 in anything newer than 99.

When I had my HDJ81 with the 1HDT motor, I made friends with another forum member who was finishing up a 4BT 80 series. One ride in the HDJ was enough to sour him on every single aspect of his 4BT, and the 1HDT is 30 years old!

The only other option I’d consider *might* be the OM606 and the CJMA. The OM is IDI, so that’s probably out, and the CJMA is still too expensive/complex.

We’ve just read differing reports on the R2.8 is all. And unless one of us wants to pony up the handsome sum for one, it’ll remain hearsay. And the BHW matches the R2.8s power with a simple $300 tune. Add a turbo and nozzles? Game over.
 
absalom said:
DieselToyz only deals in OEM gray market so they say what suits their narrative. Don’t believe me? Read what they have to say about TDI swaps. But I won’t fight you here; I wouldn’t use either an R2.8 or 4BT personally. Why? Because I have no experience with those motors. However, as I mentioned earlier, the BHW is direct injection, super reliable (once BSM/cam are sorted) capable of making gobs of power, and readily available for under $1,000.

The best part? It’s actually legal in all 3rd gens! Unlike every single engine that DieselToys sells, and the 4BT, and the R2.8 in anything newer than 99.

When I had my HDJ81 with the 1HDT motor, I made friends with another forum member who was finishing up a 4BT 80 series. One ride in the HDJ was enough to sour him on every single aspect of his 4BT, and the 1HDT is 30 years old!

The only other option I’d consider *might* be the OM606 and the CJMA. The OM is IDI, so that’s probably out, and the CJMA is still too expensive/complex.

We’ve just read differing reports on the R2.8 is all. And unless one of us wants to pony up the handsome sum for one, it’ll remain hearsay. And the BHW matches the R2.8s power with a simple $300 tune. Add a turbo and nozzles? Game over.
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I’m not a fighter I’m a lover.

Yes exactly I was just giving you some extra info. I personally Like things to feel and look like they came from the manufacturer. So in many ways I 100% agree with their point of view.

I have seen a couple Frankenstein swaps with rows of toggles and cool flashing lights. Oh and an oil pressure gauge. Have to have an oil pressure gauge.
 
twowheel said:
Not quite sure where the 20-25 grand number comes from. I'm willing to bet that it can be done substantially cheaper than that if it's $9k MSRP.
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when you start adding up all, the modifications and and parts required to do the whole project right. it gets up there really quick.
 
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