DNC Says NO to Catholic Bishop, YES to Muslim Radicals

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Yes to Muslim:
Democratic National Convention to Host Islamic Jumah Prayers with Jibril Hough, Siraj Wahhaj | Video | TheBlaze.com

No to top Bishop in US:
Cardinal Dolan’s offer rebuffed for prayer at Democratic National Convention - NYPOST.com

Apparently, DNC has another Catholic in mind, even though it will be a lower ranking Catholic official and no one really knows who it is since airplane ticket is not confirmed yet.

I sure hope that these links are wrong, esp. the first one. DNC can't find good Muslim-Americans without ties to radical Islam teachings?? Is Obama that thin-skinned to not allow (remember, the bishop is "grateful" to be part of DNC) the top-ranking Catholic Bishop to bless simply because he is against Obama's mandate?

Democratic party is getting weirder by the minute! Why are they doing this? IMO, this is kinda good for Republicans because this will definitely alienate many Americans!

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Why are they doing this? In a nutshell...Obama. He has repeatedly gone to great lengths to turn all other religions vanilla and refuse anything that might be construed as favoritism, then bends over backwards for Muslims. If he is not affiliated with them (which he has stated is the case), then he must be scared of them. Either way, our so-called leader is sending bad messages with his actions.
 
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Damn, i guess that it is true...why on earth would DNC do this?! Are they that desparate for votes?

"The leaders of this event – Jibril Hough and Imam Siraj Wahhaj [are not] moderates. They are radicals. These individuals embrace Islamist supremacy and have demonstrated support for radical ideologies.

A quick Google search by the DNC would have shown them that Hough and Wahhaj are leaders in the separatist American Islamist movement.

Wahhaj elaborated, according to bestselling author Brigitte Gabriel, to say: “If only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate.”

He continued: “Take my word. If 6-8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us.”
When an imam like Siraj Wahhaj says “it his duty and our duty as Muslims to replace the US Constitution with the Quran…we need to speak up!”"

WTF?!! Radical Islamists in the spotlight (2 full hours!) with DNC?! :mad: And it is the DNC folks that were discussing the evils of Chik Fil-a.... :toilet:
 
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I think that so much has happened so fast that it will literally take years to even comprehend the extent to which this administration has betrayed us all.
 
My apologies to you conservative democrats out there (you know, the ones who are basically the same as moderate republicans with a few different thoughts on key points) but do you guys know what your party is doing? Holy crap stuff like this is just what is newsworthy today. I agree that it will take years to find out how deep this administration has put us in the poo and even longer to fix it.
 
i have said it before, and i will say it again. I am truely living in a world I do not understand. I agree that it will take many years to undo the last 4 yrs. God help us if the incumbent gets four more years.
 

Being gullible is an understatement! It is amazing to see how so many people will try to spread hatred and fear as a means to sway voters. All one needs to do is look at the first posting to see my point.... The sad part is, for those of us who would like to have a rational debate about where we were, are now, and the future can't include those extremists. In part, because their hatred prevents then from any logical debate....

Rather then saying we should be further along then we are, the far right has decided to invoke hatred, and racism as a means to get their point across!

I for one believe that President Obama is on the right track, and feel that we could have been further along is the other side actually came to the table!

Jay
 
How fast we forget that Obama had BOTH House and Senate his first TWO YEARS...and did NOTHING! No budget. Nothing about jobs. Nothing about economy. Amnesia from the left?

I did enjoy DNC scrambling to explain why God and Jerusalem was left out of the platform!! Morons!
 
How fast we forget that Obama had BOTH House and Senate his first TWO YEARS...and did NOTHING! No budget. Nothing about jobs. Nothing about economy. Amnesia from the left?

I did enjoy DNC scrambling to explain why God and Jerusalem was left out of the platform!! Morons!

Here is a list for you, it may help jog your memory!!

1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.

2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

13. Improved America’s Image Abroad: With new policies, diplomacy, and rhetoric, reversed a sharp decline in world opinion toward the U.S. (and the corresponding loss of “soft power”) during the Bush years. From 2008 to 2011, favorable opinion toward the United States rose in ten of fifteen countries surveyed by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, with an average increase of 26 percent.

14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending: As part of the 2010 health care reform bill, signed measure ending the wasteful decades-old practice of subsidizing banks to provide college loans. Starting July 2010 all students began getting their federal student loans directly from the federal government. Treasury will save $67 billion over ten years, $36 billion of which will go to expanding Pell Grants to lower-income students.

15. Created Race to the Top: With funds from stimulus, started $4.35 billion program of competitive grants to encourage and reward states for education reform.

16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards: Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.

17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis: To keep world economy out of recession in 2009 and 2010, helped secure from G-20 nations more than $500 billion for the IMF to provide lines of credit and other support to emerging market countries, which kept them liquid and avoided crises with their currencies.

18. Passed Mini Stimuli: To help families hurt by the recession and spur the economy as stimulus spending declined, signed series of measures (July 22, 2010; December 17, 2010; December 23, 2011) to extend unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes.

19. Began Asia “Pivot”: In 2011, reoriented American military and diplomatic priorities and focus from the Middle East and Europe to the Asian-Pacific region. Executed multipronged strategy of positively engaging China while reasserting U.S. leadership in the region by increasing American military presence and crafting new commercial, diplomatic, and military alliances with neighboring countries made uncomfortable by recent Chinese behavior.

20. Increased Support for Veterans: With so many soldiers coming home from Iraq and Iran with serious physical and mental health problems, yet facing long waits for services, increased 2010 Department of Veterans Affairs budget by 16 percent and 2011 budget by 10 percent. Also signed new GI bill offering $78 billion in tuition assistance over a decade, and provided multiple tax credits to encourage businesses to hire veterans.

21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran: In effort to deter Iran’s nuclear program, signed Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act (2010) to punish firms and individuals who aid Iran’s petroleum sector. In late 2011 and early 2012, coordinated with other major Western powers to impose sanctions aimed at Iran’s banks and with Japan, South Korea, and China to shift their oil purchases away from Iran.
22. Created Conditions to Begin Closing Dirtiest Power Plants: New EPA restrictions on mercury and toxic pollution, issued in December 2011, likely to lead to the closing of between sixty-eight and 231 of the nation’s oldest and dirtiest coal-fired power plants. Estimated cost to utilities: at least $11 billion by 2016. Estimated health benefits: $59 billion to $140 billion. Will also significantly reduce carbon emissions and, with other regulations, comprises what’s been called Obama’s “stealth climate policy.”

23. Passed Credit Card Reforms: Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act (2009), which prohibits credit card companies from raising rates without advance notification, mandates a grace period on interest rate increases, and strictly limits overdraft and other fees.

24. Eliminated Catch-22 in Pay Equality Laws: Signed Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in 2009, giving women who are paid less than men for the same work the right to sue their employers after they find out about the discrimination, even if that discrimination happened years ago. Under previous law, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., the statute of limitations on such suits ran out 180 days after the alleged discrimination occurred, even if the victims never knew about it.

25. Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court: Nominated and obtained confirmation for Sonia Sotomayor, the first Hispanic and third woman to serve, in 2009; and Elena Kagan, the fourth woman to serve, in 2010. They replaced David Souter and John Paul Stevens, respectively.

26. Improved Food Safety System: In 2011, signed FDA Food Safety Modernization Act, which boosts the Food and Drug Administration’s budget by $1.4 billion and expands its regulatory responsibilities to include increasing number of food inspections, issuing direct food recalls, and reviewing the current food safety practices of countries importing products into America.

27. Achieved New START Treaty: Signed with Russia (2010) and won ratification in Congress (2011) of treaty that limits each country to 1,550 strategic warheads (down from 2,200) and 700 launchers (down from more than 1,400), and reestablished and strengthened a monitoring and transparency program that had lapsed in 2009, through which each country can monitor the other.

28. Expanded National Service: Signed Serve America Act in 2009, which authorized a tripling of the size of AmeriCorps. Program grew 13 percent to 85,000 members across the country by 2012, when new House GOP majority refused to appropriate more funds for further expansion.

29. Expanded Wilderness and Watershed Protection: Signed Omnibus Public Lands Management Act (2009), which designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, created thousands of miles of recreational and historic trails, and protected more than 1,000 miles of rivers.

30. Gave the FDA Power to Regulate Tobacco: Signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (2009). Nine years in the making and long resisted by the tobacco industry, the law mandates that tobacco manufacturers disclose all ingredients, obtain FDA approval for new tobacco products, and expand the size and prominence of cigarette warning labels, and bans the sale of misleadingly labeled “light” cigarette brands and tobacco sponsorship of entertainment events.

31. Pushed Federal Agencies to Be Green Leaders: Issued executive order in 2009 requiring all federal agencies to make plans to soften their environmental impacts by 2020. Goals include 30 percent reduction in fleet gasoline use, 26 percent boost in water efficiency, and sustainability requirements for 95 percent of all federal contracts. Because federal government is the country’s single biggest purchaser of goods and services, likely to have ripple effects throughout the economy for years to come.

32. Passed Fair Sentencing Act: Signed 2010 legislation that reduces sentencing disparity between crack versus powder cocaine possessionfrom100 to1 to 18 to1.

33. Trimmed and Reoriented Missile Defense: Cut the Reagan-era “Star Wars” missile defense budget, saving $1.4 billion in 2010, and canceled plans to station antiballistic missile systems in Poland and the Czech Republic in favor of sea-based defense plan focused on Iran and North Korea.

34. Began Post-Post-9/11 Military Builddown: After winning agreement from congressional Republicans and Democrats in summer 2011 budget deal to reduce projected defense spending by $450 billion, proposed new DoD budget this year with cuts of that size and a new national defense strategy that would shrink ground forces from 570,000 to 490,000 over the next ten years while increasing programs in intelligence gathering and cyberwarfare.

35. Let Space Shuttle Die and Killed Planned Moon Mission: Allowed the expensive ($1 billion per launch), badly designed, dangerous shuttle program to make its final launch on July 8, 2011. Cut off funding for even more bloated and problem-plagued Bush-era Constellation program to build moon base in favor of support for private-sector low-earth orbit ventures, research on new rocket technologies for long-distance manned flight missions, and unmanned space exploration, including the largest interplanetary rover ever launched, which will investigate Mars’s potential to support life.

36. Invested Heavily in Renewable Technology: As part of the 2009 stimulus, invested $90 billion, more than any previous administration, in research on smart grids, energy efficiency, electric cars, renewable electricity generation, cleaner coal, and biofuels.

37. Crafting Next-Generation School Tests: Devoted $330 million in stimulus money to pay two consortia of states and universities to create competing versions of new K-12 student performance tests based on latest psychometric research. New tests could transform the learning environment in vast majority of public school classrooms beginning in 2014.

38. Cracked Down on Bad For-Profit Colleges: In effort to fight predatory practices of some for-profit colleges, Department of Education issued “gainful employment” regulations in 2011 cutting off commercially focused schools from federal student aid funding if more than 35 percent of former students aren’t paying off their loans and/or if the average former student spends more than 12 percent of his or her total earnings servicing student loans.

39. Improved School Nutrition: In coordination with Michelle Obama, signed Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act in 2010 mandating $4.5 billion spending boost and higher nutritional and health standards for school lunches. New rules based on the law, released in January, double the amount of fruits and vegetables and require only whole grains in food served to students.

40. Expanded Hate Crimes Protections: Signed Hate Crimes Prevention Act (2009), which expands existing hate crime protections to include crimes based on a victim’s sexual orientation, gender, or disability, in addition to race, color, religion, or national origin.

41. Avoided Scandal: As of November 2011, served longer than any president in decades without a scandal, as measured by the appearance of the word “scandal” (or lack thereof) on the front page of the Washington Post.

42. Brokered Agreement for Speedy Compensation to Victims of Gulf Oil Spill: Though lacking statutory power to compel British Petroleum to act, used moral authority of his office to convince oil company to agree in 2010 to a $20 billion fund to compensate victims of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico; $6.5 billion already paid out without lawsuits. By comparison, it took nearly two decades for plaintiffs in the Exxon Valdez Alaska oil spill case to receive $1.3 billion.
43. Created Recovery.gov: Web site run by independent board of inspectors general looking for fraud and abuse in stimulus spending, provides public with detailed information on every contract funded by $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Thanks partly to this transparency, board has uncovered very little fraud, and Web site has become national model: “The stimulus has done more to promote transparency at almost all levels of government than any piece of legislation in recent memory,” reports Governing magazine.

44. Pushed Broadband Coverage: Proposed and obtained in 2011 Federal Communications Commission approval for a shift of $8 billion in subsidies away from landlines and toward broadband Internet for lower-income rural families.

45. Expanded Health Coverage for Children: Signed 2009 Children’s Health Insurance Authorization Act, which allows the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) to cover health care for 4 million more children, paid for by a tax increase on tobacco products.

46. Recognized the Dangers of Carbon Dioxide: In 2009, EPA declared carbon dioxide a pollutant, allowing the agency to regulate its production.

47. Expanded Stem Cell Research: In 2009, eliminated the Bush-era restrictions on embryonic stem cell research, which shows promise in treating spinal injuries, among many other areas.

48. Provided Payment to Wronged Minority Farmers: In 2009, signed Claims Resolution Act, which provided $4.6 billion in funding for a legal settlement with black and Native American farmers who the government cheated out of loans and natural resource royalties in years past.

49. Helped South Sudan Declare Independence: Helped South Sudan Declare Independence: Appointed two envoys to Sudan and personally attended a special UN meeting on the area. Through U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, helped negotiate a peaceful split in 2011.

50. Killed the F-22: In 2009, ended further purchases of Lockheed Martin single-seat, twin-engine, fighter aircraft, which cost $358 million apiece. Though the military had 187 built, the plane has never flown a single combat mission. Eliminating it saved $4 billion.

The article can be found at the Washington Monthly
 
Too many BS to address. Did you just copy this from DNC?! :D

Health reforms...yeah, wait till you get sick dude. Good luck getting immediate attention or someone who cares. Unfortunately, there are way too many Americans who don't understand the healthcare system and just throw out trash propaganda! Name me a big country where this type of healthcare system is successful and won't bankrupt us further. And in that country, how many of its citizens are happy with it?

Auto industry bailouts...hmm, who owns Chrysler now? Ain't us!! Have the taxpayers gotten anything back from Obama using our money to bail them out? Or does China really own GM?

JEEP Wrangler Rubicon is actually now considered a Fiat product! :( (I guess that it is still better than Jaguar's blown heritage!)

Remember, FORD did not take aid from Obama. Lets not get delusional.

What is our credit rating as a nation?? When did our nation become second class among the world?

Economy...stimulus and more stimulus...oh yeah, that did some good! Are you freaking kidding me?! We just blew wads of (China's) cash for nothing! At least, our grandkids will know Chinese as the primary language!

How much are homes worth now compared to 4 years ago?

And violence has stopped in Afgan and Iraq, right? Osama is dead...but is our nation safer? Aren't the SEALs a fan of Obama? Not.

The rest of the stuff you listed either does not make sense (since national deficit skyrocketed under Obama) or that it served to pander to the food stamp crowd. How many people are on food stamps now compared to 2008? How many are in poverty compared to 2008?? How's the work force these days? Are they expanding?? I thought so.

Do we have Israel's trust? When did we turn our back on Israel?

Is our nation really less divided than four years ago? IMO, our nation is more racial and divided than 2008.

How's the national budget coming along??

So much for CHANGE. We need a new edition of CHANGE...and that involved getting Obama out of office!

Thanks for posting all that...but it is pure FAIL.

Just want to post this again:
How fast we forget that Obama had BOTH House and Senate his first TWO YEARS...and did NOTHING! No budget. Nothing about jobs. Nothing about economy. Amnesia from the left?

I did enjoy DNC scrambling to explain why God and Jerusalem was left out of the platform!! Morons!

How many excuses do we need to hear? My question to the liberals...if Obama was Republican and he did THIS bad, then would you vote for him?
 
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Too many BS to address. Did you just copy this from DNC?! :D

Health reforms...yeah, wait till you get sick dude. Good luck getting immediate attention or someone who cares. Unfortunately, there are way too many Americans who don't understand the healthcare system and just throw out trash propaganda! Name me a big country where this type of healthcare system is successful and won't bankrupt us further. And in that country, how many of its citizens are happy with it?

Auto industry bailouts...hmm, who owns Chrysler now? Ain't us!! Have the taxpayers gotten anything back from Obama using our money to bail them out? Or does China really own GM?

Remember, FORD did not take aid from Obama. Lets not get delusional.

What is our credit rating as a nation?? When did our nation become second class among the world?

Economy...stimulus and more stimulus...oh yeah, that did some good! Are you freaking kidding me?! We just blew wads of (China's) cash for nothing! At least, our grandkids will know Chinese as the primary language!

How much are homes worth now compared to 4 years ago?

And violence has stopped in Afgan and Iraq, right? Osama is dead...but is our nation safer? Aren't the SEALs a fan of Obama? Not.

The rest of the stuff you listed either does not make sense (since national deficit skyrocketed under Obama) or that it served to pander to the food stamp crowd. How many people are on food stamps now compared to 2008? How many are in poverty compared to 2008?? I thought so.

Is our nation really less divided than four years ago? IMO, our nation is more racial and divided than 2008.

So much for CHANGE. We need a new edition of CHANGE...and that involved getting Obama out of office!

Thanks for posting all that...but it is pure FAIL.


Did you even read my posting? I would venture to say not because I posted the location of the information.

As far as healthcare, based on what you are noting, I would have to conclude that you have NO idea about healthcare...

As for the auto industry, it was a loan and the stockholders own the company!

Our credit rating dropped the far right refused to pass the debt ceiling.

What I find so interesting is that your entire argument is based on getting President Obama out of office. Here is a link to remind you of why we are where we are:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/business/18markets.html?pagewanted=all

If you take the time to read it, you may find most of the answers to your statement! I would add, can you imagine how many more jobs people would have if the GOP actually wanted to work with the President? Moreover, if they had at the very least voted YES once....

I feel very bad for you, and can't imagine what it must be like to be so simple minded and have so much hate and rage....
 
Below is from Romney......

Romney says Obama is improving the economy
Here’s the Mitt Romney facepalm of the day, via Wonkette:

Uhh, okay, we will not argue with you that much, Mittens:

INGRAHAM: You’ve also noted that there are signs of improvement on the horizon in the economy. How do you answer the president’s argument that the economy is getting better in a general election campaign if you yourself are saying it’s getting better?
ROMNEY: Well, of course it’s getting better. The economy always gets better after a recession, there is always a recovery. […]

INGRAHAM: Isn’t it a hard argument to make if you’re saying, like, OK, he inherited this recession, he took a bunch of steps to try to turn the economy around, and now, we’re seeing more jobs, but vote against him anyway? Isn’t that a hard argument to make? Is that a stark enough contrast?

ROMNEY: Have you got a better one, Laura? It just happens to be the truth.
 
Funny, i am in the medical field...are you??

Another funny thing...Obama had 2 years of his people in BOTH houses...remember, the fact that the Republicans won back the seats in the House was due to the LACK of actions from the Democrats and the President.

Hate and rage? Isn't that what the DNC was all about?! Dude, the President (and Democrats) is the one that is bringing up the race card and dividing the country!!
 
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