Door handle opens locked door...ALWAYS!

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airbrushguy

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Had a slight accident with my 1998 4Runner that pulled the driver side door handle off, handle only, door was fine. Replaced handle, attached rods, door opens from inside or outside handle, however it opens whether door lock button is up or down.
Looked for broken or bent parts but didn't find any however I cannot get door to stay locked so that you cannot open by pulling up outside handle.
It seems like a mechanical problem but I can't see anything that needs to be replaced or bent etc.
Door will lock from auto buttons or remote also, but will still open when you pull up on outside handle.
Any help?
Thanks
 
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You joined T4R.org in 2010 and made your first comment today? Holy hell, that's amazing.

Idk about the door though. Could be a ghost.
 
When it's locked, can you also open it from the inside door handle, or only the outside? Knowing that might help narrow it down to an issue with the lock, or an issue with the rod connecting the outside handle to the release.
 
I hear ya on the comments.

No real answer but how about either comparing what you gave on 'bad' side to the other side's operation? Or to a schematic from fsm perhaps. Luck. :cowboy:
 
jeremyc74 said:
When it's locked, can you also open it from the inside door handle, or only the outside? Knowing that might help narrow it down to an issue with the lock, or an issue with the rod connecting the outside handle to the release.
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Yes, when it is locked, it can be opened from the inside as well as the outside.
Thanks for your interest.
 
airbrushguy said:
Yes, when it is locked, it can be opened from the inside as well as the outside.
Thanks for your interest.
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Just to make sure we're clear, when you hit the electric lock button, the manual lock goes up and down like it's supposed to, but even when it's down you can always open the door?
 
airbrushguy said:
Correct!
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Ok, so my first thought was that the manual lock rod wasn't working right, but the fact that it moves up and down with the electric locks, and they seem to be doing their thing rules that out.

It seems to me that something has to be broken inside the actuator itself for this to happen. You're probably just going to have to crack the door open and get a look at it.
 
airbrushguy said:
What do you mean by the actuator?
The door panel is off.
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The actual latch, where all the rods connect to.

There should be a lock rod going to it, as well as one from the inner and outer door handles.

It will look something like this:

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Do we have any proof that the door is truly 'locked' other than the manual lock (aka plastic stick) is going up and down? If it opens from both sides, maybe it's never locked, just the stick moves when you open from the handle?

Post some pics of the door with the panel off, OP
 
LookAtThatDog said:
Do we have any proof that the door is truly 'locked' other than the manual lock (aka plastic stick) is going up and down? If it opens from both sides, maybe it's never locked, just the stick moves when you open from the handle?

Post some pics of the door with the panel off, OP
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Good thought, I cannot say the door is ever locked other than the fact that the manual lock button is down. I guess it's possible that the button is going down but the rod that should move in the actuator is not moving/locking the actuator mechanism.
 
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