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It really never "shared" anything with the FJ40....other than the letter F and J:sleepy:
 
Thank god, that thing is a disgrace to the original FJ, Toyota should learn something from Jeep, why change something that already looks good as fuark. i would gladly drive a new Fj if it look just like the original
 
Well, if the rumor is true that the Wrangler will lose its solid axles by 2016 it seems Jeep is learning from Toyota.

I was pretty excited when I knew Toyota was working on a retro FJ40. But I was quickly disappointed when I saw what they had come up with. I thought it was going to grow on me but the years passed and I still think it's fugly every time I see one. So, I decided to look for an old 4runner instead.
 
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Apparently they still make the FJ70s to this day! Just not for the US customer...

I liked the FJ Cruiser, but mainly after they were modified with lifts, bumpers, better tires. I look at them kind of how I look at the Scions, a decent "starting platform."

They can't make a FJ40 for the US because of all the crash standards, safety crap, and CAFE standards (apparently according to a couple articles that's what mainly killed the FJ Cruiser). So any FJ Cruiser replacement they intend to make in the future will be as bulky looking as the FJ because of crash and safety standards, the reality is these enviromentalist idiots who pass regulations like CAFE are not looking at the whole picture and are so focused on todays "it" grenhouse gas that its going to bite them in the ass later down the line. For example GDI engines are heavily held back by regulations constricting CO2 output, but for manufactuerers to meet those requirements the GDI engines are often de-tuned, run below their potentional, and spew a higher number of NOx than their standard engine counterparts and NOx is just as dangerous as CO2 in large enough quanities. At the rate this stuff is going we're gonna see Hybrids and small cars being forced upon us until battery technology and infrastructure has caught up enough to make electric vehicles that get 400+miles on a less than 20minute charging cycle feasible and affordable.
 
Apparently they still make the FJ70s to this day! Just not for the US customer...

I liked the FJ Cruiser, but mainly after they were modified with lifts, bumpers, better tires. I look at them kind of how I look at the Scions, a decent "starting platform."

They can't make a FJ40 for the US because of all the crash standards, safety crap, and CAFE standard

I am sorry BlackWorkInc but I kind of disagree with you. If Ford, Dodge and Chevrolet were able to do it, Why can't Toyota? I mean, I was not expecting something with a 2F engine in it but something that clearly resembles a tribute if you will, of the original FJ40.
 
Apparently they still make the FJ70s to this day! Just not for the US customer...

I liked the FJ Cruiser, but mainly after they were modified with lifts, bumpers, better tires. I look at them kind of how I look at the Scions, a decent "starting platform."

They can't make a FJ40 for the US because of all the crash standards, safety crap, and CAFE standard

I am sorry BlackWorkInc but I kind of disagree with you. If Ford, Dodge and Chevrolet were able to do it, Why can't Toyota? I mean, I was not expecting something with a 2F engine in it but something that clearly resembles a tribute if you will, of the original FJ40.

What do you mean? The only FJ40-ish (in terms of vintage simplicity and looks) vehicle available is the Jeep Wrangler and even that is far more complex and different than the old one due to modern crash safety requirements and emissions regulations, surprisingly Jeep has managed to roughly keep the exterior simple enough to evoke nostalgia while meeting most US requirements. I haven't seen Ford or GM offer anything close to that bare bones.
 
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What do you mean? The only FJ40-ish (in terms of vintage simplicity and looks) vehicle available is the Jeep Wrangler and even that is far more complex and different than the old one due to modern crash safety requirements and emissions regulations, surprisingly Jeep has managed to roughly keep the exterior simple enough to evoke nostalgia while meeting most US requirements. I haven't seen Ford or GM offer anything close to that bare bones.

When I see a new Challenger, a previous gen Mustang, even a new Camaro I know they are not running in-line 6s or v8 with carburators, but to me they look like a new version of the old.

You said yourself, if Jeep has managed to design the Wrangler to meet new regulations and still provoke nostalgia, why can't Toyota?. It takes more than the front bezel to relate the FJ Cruiser to the FJ40, how about a removable top? I know they could have done a better job.

I hope I can get my point across now.
 
I was never a huge FJC fan...BUT they got a lot of new people into the sport of offroading, and they are fairly capable.

I am sort of sad to see it go, pretty rugged vehicle, came with a manual and a rear locker. Plus the tons of aftermarket support.

Next to a 5th gen 4runner the FJC is most definitely more at home on the trail when comparing two of them stock.
 

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