Goodyear DuraTrac vs BFG All Terrain

DuraTrac or BFG AT

  • DuraTrac

    Votes: 70 71.4%
  • BFG AT

    Votes: 28 28.6%

  • Total voters
    98
I fear that most of the replies in here are going to be people advising you toward what they had... Hepar seems to be the only one to have purchased both...

What I can say from what I've seen with rigs side by side (me being the one with BFG's), they both perform similarly, with the Duratracs having a clear advantage in mud. Other than that, I think they are quite similar.

For the daily driver, I would lean toward the BFG's. I used them for my drives between montana and seattle in the winters, and they performed amazingly in highway snow. Looking at the tread patterns, I would assume that the BFG's would be better than the duratracs for highway snow driving - because of the smaller grooves. It's snow packing into the tire itself and that provides traction on snow / snow on snow adhesion, rather than rubber on snow.

Now if its more biased for wheeling, I'd lean toward the duractracs
 
I fear that most of the replies in here are going to be people advising you toward what they had... Hepar seems to be the only one to have purchased both...

What I can say from what I've seen with rigs side by side (me being the one with BFG's), they both perform similarly, with the Duratracs having a clear advantage in mud. Other than that, I think they are quite similar.

For the daily driver, I would lean toward the BFG's. I used them for my drives between montana and seattle in the winters, and they performed amazingly in highway snow. Looking at the tread patterns, I would assume that the BFG's would be better than the duratracs for highway snow driving - because of the smaller grooves. It's snow packing into the tire itself and that provides traction on snow / snow on snow adhesion, rather than rubber on snow.

Now if its more biased for wheeling, I'd lean toward the duractracs

I've had both. Had a few sets of BFG AT and now I have Duratracs. The duratracs are way better in highway snow. and waaay waaay better in highway rain.
off road is similar in sand and other. duratrac has advantage in mud.
I can't recall what the price comparisons were when I bought my set of duratracs.... but I think they were cheaper than the BFG. I would buy duratracs again even if more expensive than BFG AT.
 
My only experience with the bfgs is in my dad's f350 he used to have. Those tires were awful offroad. They lasted forever, and were great on the highway, but in wet grass, mud, wet roads or snow it was not possible to get traction. Granted, this was not your average power stroke, and had a stupid amount of torque. I think the tires were 33 12.5 16.5's, but I am not sure. I know they were e-rated though.

With those tires on his truck my 87 4runner had to pull him out of multiple fields while hunting. Just wet grass on a slight incline.

Super Bowl Sunday in 2004 we were heading to church with a LIGHT layer of snow on the road. Tread filled, shot us into a ditch, through a tree, over some mailboxes, and through a power pole. Never drove the truck again in the snow with those tires.

I currently have duratracs and like them so far. They ride nice, and look nice. I think the posts of how quiet they are, are very misleading... These tires are NOT quiet in a 285/70/17 d. Compared to my toyo ats, they scream.
 
It would suck to get away from my bfg mud 255's (lighter, better fuel economy, less strain on drivetrain, fewer rubbing issues to contend with), but if I had to go with a 285, then I'd go with the duratracs hands down. A lot of tire for the money IMO. Might even be able to get a great deal on them if you are a Costco member.

My bfg MUDs really suck in the snow. Trips to Co or northern az where there's snow has never been comfortable, but other than that they seem to rock on my cruiser in the 315's and the runner on the 255's.

Hence the reason I didn't go with the 34" KM2. They look great though.

I understand a mud tire won't be exceptional on ice. In fact quite bad. Some mud tires are great in snow (without ice). I find my Treadwrights bad in both. They do slide predictably though, but coming around mountain passes in a drift isn't something I want to be doing all the time. When the weather is bad in the mountains, that's when I head out. I've had to tippy toe quite a bit to get out to our splitboarding spots.

I've heard the KM2's lateral grip in snow sucks bad. That' came from Addison (Dirt Duster)


For a less aggressive tire, I've heard great things about the Firestone AT too. I put them on my old (09 Tacoma) work truck. They looked good and worked great for the short time I had them. IMO, they don't look aggressive enough for a lifted vehicle though.

I'm highly consider 255 for my next wheels, but options are limited... I think a Duratrac 255/85/16 with normal sidewalls would be wicked!
 
i have had the BFGs before, and i had three different sets in different sizes -30 9.50 15, 31 10.50 15, and 33 12.50 15, all on my old pickup. the only reason i got so many was they never lasted as long as they should have and america tire kept giving me like 40% off on the next set cause they would wear bad or way too fast for a light little truck. anyhow yeah they sucked off road, maybe in slick rock or logging roads they would be ok, but get them in mud or wet snow ect and yeah i never liked them. my little 85 toyota 22re would just eat those tires alive too, i dont know why but i do know i wont own another set unless someone gives me a set for free, then and only then will i run them -or sell them and buy another tire.

i have no experience with the dura-tracs but everyone on here seams to sing nothing but praise for them. they seam wide for what they are -as i have one for a spare(285 70 17) and they have been wider than my nitto terra grapplers BGF M/Ts and maxxis bighorns all in the same size. but they look good
 
I just switched from BFG's to a set of Duratracs, but I haven't had a chance to get them out on trails much and since the weather has been so nice. No snow or ice either. I've loved how the BFG's performed on snow and wet, so I'm looking forward to see how these do as I hear they are a little better. There is some road noise with them, but I only notice it if I really listen for it.

So have you finally been able to test them on ice, snow, in rain, and offroad as well as on road? I want to know everything you know now. I'm about to choose between BFG All Terrains or Dura Tracs and I don't know what to do. Your posting has been the most on target for the info I'm tryring to get out of people in regards to what I should purchase. I have always used the BFG All Terrains on my Xterra and loved them. They were amazing on road in ice, snow, and daily driving plus also offroad in mud, snow, rain, and all else! Let me know please. It's a big purchase!
 
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So have you finally been able to test them on ice, snow, in rain, and offroad as well as on road? I want to know everything you know now. I'm about to choose between BFG All Terrains or Dura Tracs and I don't know what to do. Your posting has been the most on target for the info I'm tryring to get out of people in regards to what I should purchase. I have always used the BFG All Terrains on my Xterra and loved them. They were amazing on road in ice, snow, and daily driving plus also offroad in mud, snow, rain, and all else! Let me know please. It's a big purchase!

I haven't run the BFG ATs, but I can tell you that the KM2s are better than Duratracs everywhere except slush and ice, where the Duratracs absolutely shine.

I haven't had the Duratracs in mud or deep sand yet. Everywhere else the KM2s have been better, including road noise believe it or not.
 
So have you finally been able to test them on ice, snow, in rain, and offroad as well as on road? I want to know everything you know now. I'm about to choose between BFG All Terrains or Dura Tracs and I don't know what to do. Your posting has been the most on target for the info I'm tryring to get out of people in regards to what I should purchase. I have always used the BFG All Terrains on my Xterra and loved them. They were amazing on road in ice, snow, and daily driving plus also offroad in mud, snow, rain, and all else! Let me know please. It's a big purchase!

I've definitely tested them out in just about everything (except sand) and I've been super impressed with them. They're amazing on snow and ice. A noticeable difference between how they perform in those conditions vs the BFG's. Mud performance was great too. It makes sense as they are a significantly softer rubber. They also don't grab nearly as much gravel as my old set of BFG's did (to note, my last set of BFG's was the only set I've had where I noticed that they would grab a ton of gravel. Not sure if that's because they were the only set I didn't have sipped or because they were in an E load).

They seem to be wearing pretty well so far too, but I would be pretty surprised if they come close to the BFG's in that category. I knew that going in though. So far I'm VERY happy with them. Of course, they won't perform as well as the KM2's in certain categories, but I think the much lower cost more than makes up for that.
 
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I haven't read through the whole thread but i have over 60k on my duratracs and they have at least 10-12k more on them. They don't see as much off road as they used to but I used to wheel them ever couple weekends airing down to 12-15psi. I also towed 2500lbs regularly for a couple years with them.
 
I've had several sets of BFG AT's and one set of duratracs and the duratracs get my vote. BFG AT's have been very inconstant quality over the years. The first set ( 33x9.5x15 on a 87 T4R ) was great but after that set not so much. BGF also makes a Commercial T/A Traction tire that I've been very impressed with but it's available in limited sizes. The DuraTrac has slightly better grip and the Commercial Traction has stronger sidewalls.
 
Ha, interesting to see this come back up.

For the record, I ended up going with Duratracs. Mostly for the price, but I have been very happy with them so far.
 
I've definitely tested them out in just about everything (except sand) and I've been super impressed with them. They're amazing on snow and ice. A noticeable difference between how they perform in those conditions vs the BFG's. Mud performance was great too. It makes sense as they are a significantly softer rubber. They also don't grab nearly as much gravel as my old set of BFG's did (to note, my last set of BFG's was the only set I've had where I noticed that they would grab a ton of gravel. Not sure if that's because they were the only set I didn't have sipped or because they were in an E load).

They seem to be wearing pretty well so far too, but I would be pretty surprised if they come close to the BFG's in that category. I knew that going in though. So far I'm VERY happy with them. Of course, they won't perform as well as the KM2's in certain categories, but I think the much lower cost more than makes up for that.



Hepar that's intense because I've always ran BFG All Terrains and they've done so well for me in the snow and ice! In fact I never even had a problem with them on snow and ice. They have always been incredible so to hear you say that the Dura Tracs are better than the BFG All Terrains really blows my mind. Your help has been the best and I really appreciate it! I've gotten the most info from you over every other reply. It's funny that you say that you haven't tried sand yet. Sand is the least of my worries. I'm all about rain for daily driving, rock crawling, snow, and ice! Mud and sand aren't a big deal to me.
 
Interesting thread. My apologies, but here comes a wall or three of text.

From what I've heard, the Duratracs are the way to go (I'm looking at those or BFG KM1 Mud Terrains sometime this fall), but it always comes down to what your needs and limitations are.

As for tread life; that's an interesting subject to me.

My last car was a '98 Camry that I bought a 90,000 tread life tire for. That's a huge amount of security and frankly, something that made me pretty apprehensive of buying a 4Runner, a vehicle I've wanted for off-roading and camping since I was a teenager. Hearing that I would need to spend around $1,000 every couple years for tires (I do quite a bit of driving) was pretty disheartening.

Then I found this guy on ih8mud that got 120,000 miles out of 35" KM1's on his Cruiser.

"No ****ing way," I thought to myself (sorry for profane language, but that was my verbatim thought). More over than that, he sold four of them after one of the steel belts came loose and threaded on him, taking out a fender flare and roughing up some paint. The pictures he posted of the tires had easily 35-40% tread left. That post was a few years old, too. I didn't believe it and I spent some time digging through his posts on the forums to see if I could track down more information.

I found his original post talking about when he purchased them and a few more posts along the way that mentioned odometer readings and how much he had put on them. I was absolutely floored when I found he switched to KM2's after the KM1 mishap (he also, sold his KM1's for $100 a tire because they had plenty of tread left), which he got 100,000 miles out of before finally switching to Duratracs as he didn't like how the KM2's held up compared to his original KM1.

So a couple of things he mentioned stuck out to me:

1. He had five tires and did a five-tire rotation, according to what Toyota recommended in the owner's manual.

2. He was extremely diligent about his oil changes and doing a tire rotation with each oil change. He did this every 3,000 miles.

3. He spent 90% of his time on pavement and goes back and forth between Orlando and New York quite often, hence 120,000 miles in just a couple years with the tires.

4. When he does go off-road, he airs down a little as possible and tries to avoid it unless necessary.

5. His Land Cruiser, a '97 80 series is pretty bad-ass, built and carries a ton of extra weight.

6. He has a train horn mounted to his roof rack and it's wired to the panic button on his key fob. He also has this cool camera setup with a front-facing, one on each side, and a reverse camera. He also mounts go pros inside and out to get some cool footage when he takes his LC out and about. I'll put up links to these in an edit. I don't know what that has to do with the tires, but I thought it was pretty cool.

So I'm the type of person that reads as much as possible on a subject, over thinks things, then makes as much of an educated opinion as I can on something.

I decided to send him a PM on the forum, asking about how he liked his Duratracs, how they were holding up to wear, and if he thought they were worth picking up for myself.

He told me they have about 50,000 miles on them so far and they're still looking nearly new because he hasn't hit many trails lately. He also mentioned that the five-tire rotation is definitely key to getting so much life out of a tire rated for so much less, and that the LC rotation instructions are slightly different because of the solid axle in the front, but the principles should hold the same for a 4Runner, but to make sure I check what Toyota recommends before going with the standard formulas given on many websites as it may differ.

I find this fascinating as one of the biggest expenses we can expect to cover on our trucks is the tires. No matter what we do, these will wear out and we will be paying for more tires. So why not try and get the most out of them? Especially when I go craigslist and see guys selling a set of four tires, or five with four worn and one with zero miles on it.

Have you ever pulled your spare after it's been sitting under the truck for a while? Covered in dirt, drying out (in Arizona), it might still have air or it might not, and if it's really been sitting a while, you'll have worn spots on the sidewalls from sitting up against the bumpers under the truck.

It only makes sense to use this tire and get something more than dead weight out of it. Plus it insures that it's always in a drivable condition with air in it, and not a question mark, waiting to be cranked down to show it's ugly face.

He goes by 98 SNAKE EATER on ih8mud, so check him out if you want to see a bit more on what he's said on the forum about all this. I'll link a couple videos in an edit to check out. Attached is a picture from a fellow forum-member that saw him in traffic. Looks like a tank.

EDIT: Here's and idea how much this guy is driving. Description says he's close to 300,000 miles on the truck and it's September of 2013. A video from June says he's at 329,000.
http://youtu.be/AzWzWegWPOA

EDIT2: So many cameras...the nerd in me is extremely jealous.
http://youtu.be/2eWJ8W87KQM

EDIT3: Train horn + co-worker.
http://youtu.be/bWE5YTauJwM
 

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Hepar that's intense because I've always ran BFG All Terrains and they've done so well for me in the snow and ice! In fact I never even had a problem with them on snow and ice. They have always been incredible so to hear you say that the Dura Tracs are better than the BFG All Terrains really blows my mind. Your help has been the best and I really appreciate it! I've gotten the most info from you over every other reply. It's funny that you say that you haven't tried sand yet. Sand is the least of my worries. I'm all about rain for daily driving, rock crawling, snow, and ice! Mud and sand aren't a big deal to me.

Let me just be clear in that while I do feel like they're better than the BFG's on snow and ice (in my opinion of course) I don't think the difference is huge and I was never disappointed with how the BFG's performed. I've had 4 sets of BFG's and been happy with every one of them except the load rating of my last set. If they still offered them in a C load, I'd probably still be running them today. That being said, I am glad that they stopped making them in a C load as it made me think outside my BFG box.

The other thing I really haven't tested them on is on some heavy rock crawling. I do hear that one of the cons to the Duratrac's is that people say the sidewalls aren't the strongest. If you plan on doing some crawling, I'd highly recommend getting the full replacement warranties on them.
 
Another similar option I'd look into are the Cooper Discoverer At3's. I had a set on my last Jeep and was lucky enough that the 4Runner I bought already had them. Excellent tire, good road manners, handles mud like a champ(pretty much all we have here in the South). I made a point to drive them in the ice storms we had this past winter and if I tried to get them to slip they'd grip right back to the road. The set I'm running now were put on mid 2012 and still have over half the tread left. The picture is from my Jeep after I'd had them for four months.
 

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