Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure

Thai

Thai

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I want to have this thread so that all reviews (internet or user) can post here. I am researching tires for my GX.

Reviews:

Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure Review - MinimumTread.com

Excellent all-terrain traction, super strong sidewall, AND no penalty on mileage!

https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=449956&d=1497265431

Drive Out Magazine testing AT tires...GY #1, beating out BFG KO2 overall.

EDIT:

Here is an old review that was not as glowing for this tire: Where the Rubber Meets the Road – Expedition Portal
 
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Looks interesting but if it is one of those tires where to get the full benefits you have to go to E load, then...not so interesting at all.

The question for me would be how it compares to the better P-metric ATs. If these have kevlar in the sidewall in P-metric, then that would be a very interesting proposition. Why don't you email them and ask that question? I would like to know the answer, too.

If they can argue convincingly that this is the strongest P-metric tire on the market in terms of sidewall puncture resistance then I could be interested as well, down the road.
 
MAST4R said:
Looks interesting but if it is one of those tires where to get the full benefits you have to go to E load, then...not so interesting at all.

The question for me would be how it compares to the better P-metric ATs. If these have kevlar in the sidewall in P-metric, then that would be a very interesting proposition. Why don't you email them and ask that question? I would like to know the answer, too.

If they can argue convincingly that this is the strongest P-metric tire on the market in terms of sidewall puncture resistance then I could be interested as well, down the road.
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Good idea. I will emailed them. But i think that ALL GY AT Adventure has Kevlar sidewall. But the LT has thicker (or more) layers of Kevlar from what i read.

EDIT: Wrangler(R) All-Terrain Adventure With Kevlar(R) Tires | Goodyear Tires

So, P-metric has ONE layer of Kevlar. LT has TWO layers + 30% more steel.

And i did email them with other questions...so will post here once i have answer.
 
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While i wait for Goodyear email response, i found this on TireRack regarding this tire:

“The tire's internal structure includes twin, high-tensile steel belts reinforced by a spirally wrapped layer of next-generation DuPont Kevlar* cord to combine strength with comfort (Pro-Grade belts feature thicker steel cords reinforced by two layers of spirally wrapped DuPont Kevlar cord).”
 
Thai said:
Good idea. I will emailed them. But i think that ALL GY AT Adventure has Kevlar sidewall. But the LT has thicker (or more) layers of Kevlar from what i read.

EDIT: Wrangler(R) All-Terrain Adventure With Kevlar(R) Tires | Goodyear Tires

So, P-metric has ONE layer of Kevlar. LT has TWO layers + 30% more steel.

And i did email them with other questions...so will post here once i have answer.
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Thai said:
While i wait for Goodyear email response, i found this on TireRack regarding this tire:

“The tire's internal structure includes twin, high-tensile steel belts reinforced by a spirally wrapped layer of next-generation DuPont Kevlar* cord to combine strength with comfort (Pro-Grade belts feature thicker steel cords reinforced by two layers of spirally wrapped DuPont Kevlar cord).”
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That's great that you wrote them, thanks!

I am sure the info you mention above applies to the tread plies since steel is not used in the sidewall. The two kevlar plies will also apply to the tread.

I now had time to read and it seems that the kevlar ply is limited to the tread area although they do argue they are using something to enhance the sidewalls as well:

"While we didn't get a chance to truly challenge the off-road capabilities of the Kevlar-reinforced treads or Durawall Technology sidewall rubber, past experience confirms both contribute to the tire's toughness and strength."
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=175

I also read through the Tire Rack consumer reviews...lots of ups and downs and nothing really specific enough to provide a good idea but there is no mass enchantment with the kevlar, that's for sure. The one thing I noticed at a glance is that folks with full-time 4x4 seem happier than others. Apparently some Tacomas had them as oem and their owners hated the tires but I think oem tires tend to be lower grade than the aftermarket versions of the same model. If the one guy who claims his trucks at work have such tires and see lots of flats is correct, then that's bad for sure, but as is it is just a statement.
 
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Unfortunately, Goodyear sent me an email to call them with any questions. Useless. Oh well.
 
MAST4R said:
I am sure the info you mention above applies to the tread plies since steel is not used in the sidewall. The two kevlar plies will also apply to the tread.

I now had time to read and it seems that the kevlar ply is limited to the tread area although they do argue they are using something to enhance the sidewalls as well:

"While we didn't get a chance to truly challenge the off-road capabilities of the Kevlar-reinforced treads or Durawall Technology sidewall rubber, past experience confirms both contribute to the tire's toughness and strength."
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=175

I also read through the Tire Rack consumer reviews...lots of ups and downs and nothing really specific enough to provide a good idea but there is no mass enchantment with the kevlar, that's for sure. The one thing I noticed at a glance is that folks with full-time 4x4 seem happier than others. Apparently some Tacomas had them as oem and their owners hated the tires but I think oem tires tend to be lower grade than the aftermarket versions of the same model. If the one guy who claims his trucks at work have such tires and see lots of flats is correct, then that's bad for sure, but as is it is just a statement.
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I just read your edited comments. That is actually good news i think. The tread area protection via steel cords & Kevlar is great and all but i want strong sidewall. Before your comment, i thought that P-metric has 1 layer of Kevlar compound in the sidewall while LT has 2 layers.

IF you're right (and i think that you are), then all GY AT Adventure tires have the SAME sidewall, called Durawall technology. This means that sidewall strength is same for P- and LT tires.

As for Tirerack comments, i always take them with a grain of salt. From personal experience in past, commenters opinions are often times different from my real life experience with respective tires. I trust more the extensive reviews, as the links above prove.
 
Thai said:
I just read your edited comments. That is actually good news i think. The tread area protection via steel cords & Kevlar is great and all but i want strong sidewall. Before your comment, i thought that P-metric has 1 layer of Kevlar compound in the sidewall while LT has 2 layers.

IF you're right (and i think that you are), then all GY AT Adventure tires have the SAME sidewall, called Durawall technology. This means that sidewall strength is same for P- and LT tires.

As for Tirerack comments, i always take them with a grain of salt. From personal experience in past, commenters opinions are often times different from my real life experience with respective tires. I trust more the extensive reviews, as the links above prove.
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Yeah, the tire rack comments are useful in aggregate for road performance. Otherwise you have to read through and find someone who is trustworthy, which is time consuming and may not happen since it is important that the person also have a similar vehicle.

If I were you, I would just go for the Wildpeaks. They are great on and off road. I have put about 200 miles of harsh AZ terrain on 4x4 trails and rough dirt roads at 33 psi since I had a sidewall failure (when aired down a month ago) and I have had no issues. That's a total of 1750 off-pavement miles with one failure when aired down and one minor puncture at street pressures.

There is no way there is anything on the East Coast that comes close to the Sonoran Desert conditions. And I am talking long days in the desert, too: 60+ miles, 72 miles, 48 miles, 63 miles. This means a variety of speeds as well.

Just don't air them down. I took pictures of the tires over rocks when parked: there is plenty of flex at 33 psi.

Of course, if you suddenly decide you want to tackle serious obstacles made of sharp rocks that are in the midst of narrow shelf climbs, then an MT or KO2 would be the better choice. That's the point at which on road performance becomes irrelevant due to the risks associated with individual, dangerous spots where a burst tire can mean big issues.
 
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MAST4R said:
Yeah, the tire rack comments are useful in aggregate for road performance. Otherwise you have to read through and find someone who is trustworthy, which is time consuming and may not happen since it is important that the person also have a similar vehicle.

If I were you, I would just go for the Wildpeaks. They are great on and off road. I have put about 200 miles of harsh AZ terrain on 4x4 trails and rough dirt roads at 33 psi since I had a sidewall failure (when aired down a month ago) and I have had no issues. That's a total of 1750 off-pavement miles with one failure when aired down and one minor puncture at street pressures.

There is no way there is anything on the East Coast that comes close to the Sonoran Desert conditions. And I am talking long days in the desert, too: 60+ miles, 72 miles, 48 miles, 63 miles. This means a variety of speeds as well.

Just don't air them down. I took pictures of the tires over rocks when parked: there is plenty of flex at 33 psi.

Of course, if you suddenly decide you want to tackle serious obstacles made of sharp rocks that are in the midst of narrow shelf climbs, then an MT or KO2 would be the better choice. That's the point at which on road performance becomes irrelevant due to the risks associated with individual, dangerous spots where a burst tire can mean big issues.
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Your sidewall failure with the Wildpeak is absolutely my worst fear for tires while off-roading. Makes the tires absolutely useless and irreparable.

I do like to air down if i had to. The Goodyear sidewall is 2nd only to BFG KO2...

https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=449956&d=1497265431

And then i see from the other thread how even the Michelin Defender can be aired down too without sidewall failure.

But given everything, i think that i will go with either GY or Michelin. I do think GY has stronger sidewall...but Michelin probably be better on fuel economy.
 
You can safely bet that those Defenders have not seen even a fraction of what my Wildpeaks have. How many people have 1750 dirt miles in 3 states in 12 months? Thats 7 difficult, many moderate and 69 total trails. Dont have my list on my phone :)

There is zero need to air down P metric tires except in deep sand.

There is no way the Defenders can match the Wildpeak offroad but I am sure they are fine for infrequent use.

Ultimately, tires are like shoes, there are a lot of subjective factors, too.
 
More info that i just found on this tire: https://preview.thenewsmarket.com/Previews/GTR/DocumentAssets/476910.pdf

A part of it is quite interesting:

“Goodyear engineers optimized the tread design for an even pressure distribution across the footprint, resulting in excellent mileage and great on-road performance. DEKRA test results reveal that the Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure has, on average, a 37% better mileage performance than other tested tires.”

Footnote regarding above statement: Driven on front and rear axle, compared to the average performance of 3 competitor designs in SUV/ 4x4 segment (Bridgestone Dueler A/T, Dunlop GrandTrek AT3, General Grabber A/T). Tested by Dekra in Dec 2016 by order of Goodyear.

Additional footnote regarding same DEKRA testing: Driven on a front and rear axle, compared to the average performance of three competitor designs in SUV/ 4×4 segment. Tested by Dekra in Dec 2016 by order of Goodyear. Test Car Toyota Hilux 2.4- 4×4, tyre size 265/65 R17 112T/S. Test location: Dekra Testing Center (FP01B), France. Report/Test ref. 16CPB34-389, Wear limit = 1.6 mm for all grooves. Front Axle, Wrangler AT/A is 49% better and on rear Axle Wrangler AT/A is 25% better than average of competition, therefore averagely is 37% better than average of tested competitors.

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Given above, Goodyear AT/A is now the front-runner in my mind to replace my stock tires. Tough as nails with good off-road manners. Pretty good on-road (but likely behind Michelin Defender). No fuel economy penalty for the most part (especially vs. other AT tires).
 
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