Hypocrisy at its worse (rant warning)

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Hypocrisy at its worst (rant warning)

Hollywood calls for a plan to end gun violence:

Demand A Plan to End Gun Violence - YouTube

I've got an idea. Stop polluting our childrens' minds with violent movies, games, TV shows and music. Otherwise, this is just another "make ourselves feel better (superior)", cliche' black and white public service message.

Your move Hollywood. How serious are you, really?
 
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I've got an idea quit blaming television, movies and video games for sick people. COD: Black Ops doesn't make me want to commit a violent crime anymore than owning a fire arm does.
 
Even easier...disarm their bodyguards...and see if they still walk the walk with their demands....

The very same politicians that demand gun control today are the same ones who have guns at home or carry one to protect oneself. THAT is funny.
 
There are studies that show violence on TV and video games desensitizes children to violence. But, You're right; in the end it comes down to personal responsibility.

This is obviously a multi-factoral problem. My point was not to offer some kind of magic solution, but to point out the hypocrisy of the people who make movies, TV shows, and music glorifying violence to call for an end to violence.

As someone who has personally witnessed death and gun violence. It's not nearly as cool, sexy, or clean as these scum-bags portray.
 
Parents dont discipline your children, re-direct them instead. Do not tell them NO, make it a positive message.

Freedom of speech but dont pray in school and God forbid dont say the pledge of alegance.

This "if it feels good do it" society is killing us.

We take what we knew as right and wrong and change it to meet the popular opinion.
It is not a far stretch from Men marrying Men and Women marring Women to adults legally marrying or having sex with kids.
I hope the world is gone before we get to that place.

Sorry but I have strong feelings on all of this.

We dont know what right and wrong is anymore and even if we did we arnt allowed to paret it to our kids. So yes they grow up to be messed up adults.

Ok, some bleeding heart liberal can give me grief for writting this but that is how I feel.
 
The whole point of violence in movies and video games influencing people's actions may not be a given as a whole, but it definitely sways people's thoughts over time, and can lead to action in those who are already susceptible to following the crowd. There can be no question that violent crime has risen on a similar curve to the rise in graphic violence in "entertainment". People follow their heroes and role models, and too often that hero is the guy on the big screen who solves his problems by shooting or beating someone--that can most-certainly desensitize people over years of exposure. Where do you think the proliferation of "attitude" and revenge in today's society comes from? Because that's what's been made "cool" by the entertainment industry. All it takes is the planting of an idea, slowly feeding that over time, and then finding like-minded individuals who encourage the same thoughts, until someone finally DOES take action. Sure, I and most others can watch an "R" movie and NOT go out and beat up someone, but there ARE plenty of weak-minded individuals who will not only align their attitudes with what they see their screen idols do, they will imitate them as well, with dire consequences. For Hollywood to dare speak out against guns and violence is the ultimate in hypocrisy, for they absolutely encourage it, whether they believe it or not.
 
My feeling is that totally-screwed up individuals will eventually snap at one point, but violent movies/games may accelerate the process/timeframe a little quicker. And when they snap, there just isn't much you can do to prevent them from doing harm to themselves and others.

The bottom line is that it is NOT easy to kill onself and/or others...for you to achieve such goal(s) is a testament to how screw up you are to begin with.
 
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Gun control does not equal banning all guns. I'm tired of seeing this ignorance being repeated over and over.

Equating gays to pedophiles is also extremely ignorant.
 
A decent article from NY Times (shocking!!): Gun Laws and Crime - A Complex Relationship - NYTimes.com

In other words, strict gun laws have not been shown to do what it intends to do.

ABC 20/20 article: Gun Control Isn't Crime Control - ABC News

Note, these two articles are not from NRA or pro-gun sites! They are from traditionally liberal sites!

Long article: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/194051.pdf

But, at least, from reading it, it seems like enforcement of existing regulations is what is needed, rather than more laws/regulations. And yes, criminal background check do work if done right (aka enough staffing, etc.).

Unfortunately, nothing will prevent a guy with psychiatric issues from snapping. Liberals are equally ignorant to think that it is possible via gun control.
 
My opinion is that it is not like NRA all of a sudden got its wishes filled and then these tragic murder-suicides happened. Nothing has changed in the past decade(s) in terms of gun control. Yet, just within the recent past or so, we have these mass killings. Why? Why didn't we get these bunched up mass killings 5-10 years ago?

Desert Fox may be extreme in his thinking, but i think that he's a bit right in terms of culture change. It is a blame someone else type culture. There is no resposibility. It is never your fault. (On the Subaru forum, there was a guy who went rather deep river fording and then got water in his Subaru...what did he do? He tried his damnest to blame Subaru for rubber seal failing!) Liberalism has taken over our country. Morals have gone into the sewers. Ethics gone. Dependency on the rise. People just don't give a damn anymore. Your kid is screwed up? Instead of taking matters into your own hands, you wait for someone else to fix it for you...or you blame someone else for your failures.

Copycat killings are on the rise...the world is really screwed up now IMHO.
 
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LOL @ the we need bibles back in schools meme nonsense.

Christians LOVE guns and violence!!

I do agree the lack of discipline is a major problem. I got my ass beat plenty, and I admit I'm sure I deserved it every time. Hell I can remember being punched in the head when I was 14-16 when the belt quit working. Deserved that too. Probably be in jail or some lowlife if it weren't for it.
 
Equating gays to pedophiles is also extremely ignorant.[/QUOTE]

100 years ago it was wrong to be gay and men did not marry men.

What will society accept in another 100 years? It is ignorant, it is wrong
 
The whole point of violence in movies and video games influencing people's actions may not be a given as a whole, but it definitely sways people's thoughts over time, and can lead to action in those who are already susceptible to following the crowd. There can be no question that violent crime has risen on a similar curve to the rise in graphic violence in "entertainment". People follow their heroes and role models, and too often that hero is the guy on the big screen who solves his problems by shooting or beating someone--that can most-certainly desensitize people over years of exposure. Where do you think the proliferation of "attitude" and revenge in today's society comes from? Because that's what's been made "cool" by the entertainment industry. All it takes is the planting of an idea, slowly feeding that over time, and then finding like-minded individuals who encourage the same thoughts, until someone finally DOES take action. Sure, I and most others can watch an "R" movie and NOT go out and beat up someone, but there ARE plenty of weak-minded individuals who will not only align their attitudes with what they see their screen idols do, they will imitate them as well, with dire consequences. For Hollywood to dare speak out against guns and violence is the ultimate in hypocrisy, for they absolutely encourage it, whether they believe it or not.

There probably is a large impact from games and movies but I think the fact that we dont have parent involvement has a lot to do with the outcome.

My heros- John Wayne Vic Morrow, Clint Eastwood. I grew up watching shows like Combat every war and western movie I could see. In 1972 I got my CB and my handle was Desert Fox, not because I was considered a fox but I took the nick name of Romel. I have had that handle ever since.

I saw a lot of violence in movies and tv, Bonnie and Clyde was one of my favorite movies and still is. We played army, built forts, had BB guns and rubber band guns.

I have never had any thought of going out and killing people. Even though I was raised by my elderly grandparents, they were involved with me. They got me involved in healthy activities such as sports, scouts and church.


We need parent control before gun control.
Parents need to be involved with their kids. Parents need to know their kids friends and friends familys. Parents need to be involved in their kids activities.

I allowed my x wife (not by choice) to have majority custody of our boys. My youngest was 7. My x has the "if it feels good do it" attitude and let the kids do what ever and go where ever. Now my youngest is a drug additic, in jail and facing prison. Guess who got him arrested- me. It was either get him off the streets or go to his funeral.

I stand behind my values and beleifs

Now at 57 I am rasising his 4 year old daughter. At 57 I am involved in this little girls life and I will continue to be involved as long as I am able. She will be raised to respect life and to know right from wrong. Right and wrong from the bible not what the world beleivs is right and wrong.
 
I dont think these situations can blame violent movies or video games and the homosexuality argument is pretty ridiculous in my opinion. It does however, have everything to do with the pussification of our society.

Children are being taught that there are no winners or losers. Everyone is a winner and everyone is equal. You get rewarded for trying and participating. Everyone is trying to protect their fragile little baby from disappointment, rejection, hurt feelings, being excluded or being made fun of. But these are realities that all humans/Americans have to deal with in everyday life.

By trying to protect our children from all these negatives, we're really just setting them up for a bigger shock when they can't hide from that reality anymore. As soon as these kids get to a place where they actually have to face rejection or have to work hard to achieve good grades or make the high school team or a date to prom, their world is shattered because they have no idea how to deal with and process rejection and failure and they're lashing out in the most aggressive ways (maybe some of those ways are learned from tv/movies etc).

The solution is for parents to start saying no, and teaching their children that the world is more than rainbows and lollipops. When I was a kid, there weren't any cell phones or video games to plug children into to distract them from being sad or upset when mommy was shopping or daddy was working. These days parents don't parent, they just distract their kids from what is really happening around them. Once they get to old for those distractions to work, they lash out.

The solution doesn't start with our elected leaders, that's just passing the buck and refusing to take responsibility for the children we brought into the world. It starts with parents being PARENTS and doing their job to make sure their children are raised correctly and have a realistic understanding of how the world works
 
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I love reading when people say "right and wrong according to the bible."

I don't need a book to tell me what's right and wrong.
 
It does however, have everything to do with the pussification of our society.

Just had this exact conversation this morning with my parents after some cousinly ribbing last night turned into a 10:30 FACEBOOK MESSAGE from my aunt saying how disappointed she was in me and that her children are special and incredible people and how much respect she had lost for me. :wow2:

She also threatened to talk to my mother about how I was raised and what is appropriate. I'm 27 years old....

Unfortunately, this is now all too common of an occurance.

I have been working as a college lacrosse coach and recruiter for the last three years, and we have received phone calls from parents about something we did or said on the practice field. Or that little Johnny isn't getting the playing time they deserve. Why does he "deserve" anything? We make our guys EARN PT and EARN our respect, something that they have never had to do before in their lives. They don't know how to lose, or sit on the bench, because everyone plays and everyone gets a trophy.

The worst part is, the majority of these conversations have come after some big wins for our program.

This generation of young teens are a bunch of bona-fide pussies. They don't know how to deal with loss, conflict, or how to work for their benefits, because it was always given to them. They don't know how to approach conflict with adults because they have the power of a computer and internet to send an email (or FB message) and it's all handled without any face-to-face interaction. Or by their parents.

I have dozens of stories from my time working in my local high school and from coaching.

It's pathetic. It's sickening. And it's sad. The words "NO" and "work" have escaped from this generation's vocabulary.


I was spanked, told no, and when I got a bad grade, it was my fault. And I'm not "mentally scarred" from my parents raising me this way.
 
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100 years ago it was wrong to be gay and men did not marry men.

What will society accept in another 100 years? It is ignorant, it is wrong

I'm not fan of gay sex either, so I make sure not to have any.

Displaying my ignorance through narrow minded bigotry is also something I'm not a fan of and do my best to avoid.

Cheers!
 

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