I hate it when someone wants to borrow one of my Toyotas

[Newt4058]

A friend asked if he could barrow my 86 Toyota 4x4 to get a bed form IKEA. That’s a BIG no, it’s just a no, I don’t loan it and no one else needs to drive it.
Against my better judgement I’m letting him use my 1997 4Runner.
The whole time he’s asking I’m getting the “they are just old cars” vibe from him. I didn’t bother explaining both are worth more then his newish Ford Focus. I get that to many people they are just old cars but I sold my new cars because these are what I like to drive. Since I’ve Been looking for a wheeler to build I can tell you it would be both expensive and difficult to replace either one.
Why do people feel like it’s okay to ask to drive older rigs but never ask about newer ones? Why do people always ask to barrow pickups?

Does anyone else feel like I do?

 

[daniresch]

I don't ever feel like you do.

Being asked to borrow my car means I can say no.
Without feeling the need to write up a rant post.
And typically I like to help my friends out. As they help me out.

 

[wcjeep]

Tell them no. Uhaul is a thing. I have a truck. When helping family move I have rented the Uhaul myself. We can pack the Uhaul for one trip total. No driving across town all day. Zero wasted windshield time. Less concern for properly tied down stuff. No worries about breaking or scratching my truck. I also require the person moving to have at least 95% stuff boxed and ready. If I show up and your starting to pack boxes, I'm out. Boxes should be light to moderate in weight. I brought a Uhaul to move and save my back.

If friends are really hurt you won't loan a truck, get better friends. They can ask. You can decline.

 

[4Reak Show]

Totally agree with OP. I don't know what it is for some of us, (probably most now huh?) that we have this affinity for our older girls. The longer you own it, the more extreme it seems to be. I've owned mine since I was 17. 31 now. 14 of its 23 yrs on this planet has been with me at the helm of responsibility. When my wife and I got our house it got garage priority on day one. As was our agreement: I get control of the garage while also allowing and being responsible for household storage while my wife got full range of interior house decor as well as general organization.

Fast forward 5 years married, 4 years in this house. 95 4Runner is still in the garage while our 2011 Corolla and 2016 4Runner (yes, $40,000 5th gen) stay outside. And it's not going to change. Arguement being that the 1995 counts as my "classic" car. My project. Harder for quality replacement parts, more financial and emotional attachment, less driven on a daily basis, list goes on.

My point is that we see unlimited value in our beloved Toyota "Trucks" while others simply don't get it. And for that, others that don't at least have the respect to appreciate our neurosis can go kick rocks. Yes it's a tool. Yes it's an inanimate object. But it's OURS. So suck it. If you want a heartless, replaceable, unappreciated hunk of metal go buy a ranger or an F-150.

There's a reason we have these rigs and join forums like this. Even subconsciously, we become connected to them on an unexplainable level.

I see your rant, and raise you more psychosis.

 

[RunningForNow]

Newt, I get it and I don’t. I get it in that you just described me a month ago when I got rid of my 335i and decided to go in an entirely different direction with what cars I own. I want a car that I didn’t have to pamper, and when it breaks, it won’t be stupid expensive for repairs. I will do my best to take care of it, but I’m not going to obsess over it, because it has a few dings and scrapes around my 4Runner, and quite frankly, if someone puts a door ding on the car, I would be annoyed, but not heartbroken. My son opened my wife’s car door onto my door and left a nice dent on my last car. I saw it happen, and my heart sank. Like most of you, I have plans for my 4Runner as I’m taking my time to take care of the little projects here and there to make it awesome. It’s like restoring a 17 year-old vehicle, but not to pristine condition just so it can sit in the garage to be admired.

Now, in terms of helping my friends... I have friends who are responsible adults and have the means to pay for repairs and damages if someth8ngs happens to my car on their watch. I don’t worry about it...and I probably won’t until my 4Runner is built out the way I want it. But again I’ll never have it so nice that I get upset over dings and scrapes. I’ll help them out when I can, because they’ve helped me out plenty of times in the past.

Baby your rides, but ask yourself this: if you ever get sick in the hospital, who will be visiting you, your friends, or your cars?

 

[4RunnerAquasport]

No one was here helping me with 2 lifts on my 12' and 03', as well as dozens of mods. So no, probably not. Maybe I'm a big fat jerk and no one will hang out w me lol. I have one or 2 friends I would lend my truck(s), but they wouldn't even ask, cause that's the kind of people they are. And I live in Florida, the land of "The Worst Drivers in the Country", so they wouldn't want to risk it anyway. They might ask for help moving or whatever, but would rent a Uhaul first.

 

[spartacus]

It depends on the bonds of relationship. I'll let my brother, my cousin and two of my best friends borow my cars or anything else for that matter anytime anywhere. Everyone else is more then welcome to borrow a cup of sugar.

 

[thegipper]

I don't even let my wife use my 4runner......

My buddy wanted to borrow my rig last year and I said no. It was 100% because of liability reasons. In today's world, it's just not worth the risk. If he could put his own insurance on the truck for when he needed it, I would have let him use it. It's not about the truck (ok well maybe a little) but the liability that goes with it....

 

[T4R2014]

Come on now. Are you really getting bothered by a guy with a Ford Focus? He neutered his masculinity years ago. Learn to say no instead of falling for his BS.

 

[96RedRunner]

I base it on the person asking to borrow and their ways of taking care of things they payed for.
If they don't take care of their stuff they paid for, I know they won't take care of mine that I paid for.

 

[Hepar]

I base it on the person asking to borrow and their ways of taking care of things they payed for.
If they don't take care of their stuff they paid for, I know they won't take care of mine that I paid for.

This. There are plenty of my friends who I wouldn't hesitate to let borrow my rig because I trust in how they will treat it. And I also have friends who I'd never let near the steering wheel. Just have to know which is which.

 

[absalom]

Is this a real thread?

 

[Riceye]

I never get asked this question.

All of our vehicles have a clutch. None of our friends or family could even drive them.

The utility trailer? Sure. You can borrow that whenever you like.

 

[ToyotaBrah]

I get asked this question from friends twice a year at least, and the answer is always no. People see my truck as an old worn out SUV (which it is, sans the worn out part), and they just want to exploit all the use from it by hauling their stuff. I'll let my brother or dad use it as I know they lay down towels to prevent any scratches, but friends are a no-go. I just know they won't treat it the same, and they will be harsher driving it. I'm mechanically sympathetic with this truck. Slow take-offs from a red light, coast to red lights. K, I'm just rambling now.

Tell your Focus homie to swing by Home Depot, pay $20, and use their truck to haul his chip board bed.

 

[96RedRunner]

Is this a real thread?

Dude it's a slow Monday, Lol.

 

[phattyduck]

I never get asked this question.

All of our vehicles have a clutch. None of our friends or family could even drive them.

The utility trailer? Sure. You can borrow that whenever you like.

Ah, manual transmissions - a modern day theft deterrent!

-Charlie

 

[tcbaklash]

I've always owned a pickup until last year. Everyone always wanted to borrow whatever I had... About that time I sold my F-150, my dad had to borrow my Fiesta ST which was only 6 months old. I asked him how it was and he claimed he wasn't driving it hard. I forgot to set the programmer back to factory tune, so a few weeks later I was able to. Right after, my dad asked me "it's not as fast anymore, what did you do?"

Caught him red handed. lol

 

[RonMAIDEN]

Depends on the relationship of the person who wants to borrow it. My best friend of almost 25 years was a no brainer plus he handed me the keys to his 2017 Corvette while he had my truck plus 15 years ago my main car was in the shop during a club clash ast the dragstrip and he loaned me his '00 Acura Integra Type R for the evening as long as I was nice to it.
That is a true best buddy.

 

[LittleCaesar]

I have an extended cab Chevy which people always ask to borrow to move stuff until they see the crank windows, no stereo, and no working AC with the check engine on. Then they pass for the most part. Taking the stereo faceplate and removing the AC relay works every time.

As particular as I am with vehicles, I ask people to initialize an addendum before borrowing tools. Some though not even my brother gets to touch.

How I miss manual transmissions.....