I might ditch the T4R
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Big Daddy K
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Likelihood of that being sold in US? While I've always like the look of a Defender, the reality of one is another story. I'm not sure I would take a notoriously unreliable vehicle and pair it with a notoriously expensive to maintain vehicle and call it good. But hey, more power to them.
LandCruiser
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-No way in hell that will be street legal in the US
-If it's even built, it'll be made in the UK so expect catastrophic quality control
-More likely than not the company will fold and they will take investor money and deposits and run
-nothing keeping established car companies from building "no nonsense" 4x4s, which they do for the international market. Seems that the American market doesn't want them since the rest of the third world is lousy with them
-If it's even built, it'll be made in the UK so expect catastrophic quality control
-More likely than not the company will fold and they will take investor money and deposits and run
-nothing keeping established car companies from building "no nonsense" 4x4s, which they do for the international market. Seems that the American market doesn't want them since the rest of the third world is lousy with them
Everything's a remix. Looks like another LR Defender derivative like the Santana.
As a former D90 and D110 owner for over a dozen years, I love the idea. Unfortunately, these beasts are not financially practical for most folks in the States. If you have disposable income, sure. When I did as a single guy, it was fun but expensive and had nothing better to do with my money. So I thought.
Defenders are very capable offroad in stock form. But parts and accessories were always expensive and limited in quantity and quality. I guess that's the same for the 4R, but at least most parts and accessories are available Stateside and no need to spend more money on import shipping from overseas. I hated buying something from overseas, without knowing first-hand what the quality was. It is a lot easier when the vehicle, parts, and aftermarket accessories are in-country.
As a former D90 and D110 owner for over a dozen years, I love the idea. Unfortunately, these beasts are not financially practical for most folks in the States. If you have disposable income, sure. When I did as a single guy, it was fun but expensive and had nothing better to do with my money. So I thought.
Defenders are very capable offroad in stock form. But parts and accessories were always expensive and limited in quantity and quality. I guess that's the same for the 4R, but at least most parts and accessories are available Stateside and no need to spend more money on import shipping from overseas. I hated buying something from overseas, without knowing first-hand what the quality was. It is a lot easier when the vehicle, parts, and aftermarket accessories are in-country.
Scowling Tuna
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It's because of the BMW engine
RichinRidgewood
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I have worked with UK Engineers and had UK Engineers work for me. No thank you. Ford has almost NEVER made money in the UK. The place was run by freak'n imbeciles.
There are relaxed requirements for companies that make 200 or less vehicles a year in the US and Maybe other places.
I wonder how many of those $200,000 Toyota FJ's Restored Land Cruisers they are actually selling.
These might be mainly for the Middle Eastern Market?
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LandCruiser
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If you're referring to Icon's restomods, they have a full plate.
I've seen some of their TLC4x4 work here in the Bay Area and it is sweet.
Also not something I'd drive in the lawless Nation State of California.
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LandCruiser
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I think these guys skate by saying it's a restoration and use the original VIN.
