KO2 no traction -Scary!

[Bumbo]

Thanks, I dont know how often it would be and it wouldn't be extreme. Thanks for the info. E is too much for me.

KO2 is a pretty aggressive for an all-terrain… and it absolutely leans towards desert focused off-road more than on-road.

There are better tires out there for people who spend more time on-road… the Cooper Discovery AT3 or similar tire turns out being a better road tire with the option to go off-road. Ideal for those people who probably daily drive the truck, but also want the capability for some light off-road driving… getting to camp sites, dirt roads, and other recreational areas where you might want more than just a regular ole road tire.

 

[Swipter]

KO2 is a pretty aggressive for an all-terrain… and it absolutely leans towards desert focused off-road more than on-road.

There are better tires out there for people who spend more time on-road… the Cooper Discovery AT3 or similar tire turns out being a better road tire with the option to go off-road. Ideal for those people who probably daily drive the truck, but also want the capability for some light off-road driving… getting to camp sites, dirt roads, and other recreational areas where you might want more than just a regular ole road tire.

I am looking at that and stock Falken at3w.

 

[Jeffy]

adding siping can help on snow and ice, but not for wet traction (probably makes it worse).

...wut? The entire purpose of siping is to increase wet and icy traction. Don't know why you'd say it would make traction worse...

I still wouldn't try adding siping since there's plenty of other downsides to it. If you want the tire to have better wet traction, just go with a different tire that's meant for that.

 

[mcox522]

I have looked at your pic. The tires look huge at that angle.

It's just the angle of the pic. I was slightly below and the closest tire was about a foot higher. However the do look bigger than the stock duelers

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[PharRunner]

funny. you either hear this story, that they are scary, and don't have good traction. or you hear that they are great, and have awesome traction.

very rarely is there an in between.
I wonder if it depends on where they are made? I LOVE my KO2's. I wouldn't choose a different tire, and I wouldn't recommend a different one. not based on my personal experience with them.

Also think people with positive experience has full time awd V8s

 

[JD914]

Also think people with positive experience has full time awd V8s

Could be. I have awd and have had 2 sets of KO2's, with Maxxis MT's between them. Yes, the MT's were better in loose dirt but the KO2's are as good everywhere else off road (I'm in SoCal, so no mud) and FAR superior in snow. They actually grip nearly like a true snow tire, whereas the MT's were terrible.


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[zw470]

Also think people with positive experience has full time awd V8s

Mine were absolutely glorious on a traditional 4wd with a twin-turbo V6 :banana:

 

[Nick B]

2010 Trail with 265/70/17 KO2’s load range C at 38lbs front and rear .
Perfect traction in wet weather.
Tires were made in mid 2018 .

 

[dot_tom]

I had this experience with KO2s on my 3rd Gen Tacoma. Never with my KO2s on my 4Runner. I was a lot happier with my Nitto RG's though.

 

[nevada]

Also think people with positive experience has full time awd V8s

that's possible. but none of my experience is from that. all of mine is from traditional 4wd, with a lot of it in deep snow. over several different vehicles with a mix of 2wd and 4wd use.

 

[jhguth]

...wut? The entire purpose of siping is to increase wet and icy traction. Don't know why you'd say it would make traction worse...

I still wouldn't try adding siping since there's plenty of other downsides to it. If you want the tire to have better wet traction, just go with a different tire that's meant for that.

we are talking about aftermarket siping on non-racing tires, it may give you marginally increased ice/snow performance but it destroys the tire warranty and can actually decrease performance.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/12/should-you-slash-your-tires/index.htm

(and it's an extra bad idea since the comment was about adding siping to a tire that already has it)

 

[Jeffy]

we are talking about aftermarket siping on non-racing tires, it may give you marginally increased ice/snow performance but it destroys the tire warranty and can actually decrease performance.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/12/should-you-slash-your-tires/index.htm

(and it's an extra bad idea since the comment was about adding siping to a tire that already has it)

Yea, that's what I was saying. Siping will definitely help wet/ icy traction but there's a ton of reasons not to add it to a tire that's not meant for it.

 

[Hadelson]

Update: Today in Northeast Pennsylvania. Moderate to Heavy rain all day. The KO2's true to form where ridiculous. Slip and slide all over the place.

I was moving at below traffic speed due to Hydro-plaining. Starting from a stop - light throttle and rear wheels broke loose until Traction control kicked in.

Regardless of various posts about driver error...…….trust me when I tell you I know how to drive...…these are the worst rain tires I've had on any car and they will get someone seriously hurt.

 

[Monozub1]

I had the same problem when they were at 42-45psi. Try to run them at 37, it should fix all the issues. Very good tires in any condition, but you have to run them at correct pressure.

 

[Monozub1]

I wonder what tire pressure you guys have when you complain about wet traction. Could it be that you inflate tires to 40-45 psi so only center of tread is in contact with pavement?

+1, try to run them at 37psi, I had mine at 45 and 42 and they were all over the place.....

 

[Hadelson]

I had the same problem when they were at 42-45psi. Try to run them at 37, it should fix all the issues. Very good tires in any condition, but you have to run them at correct pressure.

Running at 36PSI all four corners...….Still scary in rain.

 

[Jeffy]

I had the same problem when they were at 42-45psi. Try to run them at 37, it should fix all the issues. Very good tires in any condition, but you have to run them at correct pressure.

Nope. Mine were horrible in the rain even as low as 30 psi.

 

[Decipher]

Please share your load ratings with your horror stories. I’m not a BFG fanboy and bought these simply because they were a too good to pass price for Rubicon take-offs.

I haven’t experienced any of the issues reported with traction yet after almost a year of use...285 C loads running 38psi. I just missed snow last year so we’ll see how they do any day now in the white stuff.

If the E load is what people are seeing issues with then I can completely understand. The E load is so grossly inappropriate for the 4R and intended for full size pickups hauling heavy loads. I known a lot of guys use E for “durability” but you’re going to suffer greatly on the road.


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[Rapid_Amble]

Please share your load ratings with your horror stories. I’m not a BFG fanboy and bought these simply because they were a too good to pass price for Rubicon take-offs.

I haven’t experienced any of the issues reported with traction yet after almost a year of use...285 C loads running 38psi. I just missed snow last year so we’ll see how they do any day now in the white stuff.

If the E load is what people are seeing issues with then I can completely understand. The E load is so grossly inappropriate for the 4R and intended for full size pickups hauling heavy loads. I known a lot of guys use E for “durability” but you’re going to suffer greatly on the road.


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I had C load KO2s and I never had a problem with them in the wet or snow for that matter.

 

[jhguth]

265 C load 39psi - decreased wet performance vs. factory p tires but still perfectly acceptable and not scary, really only noticable when trying to gun it from a stop. Great ice/snow performance for an AT tire.

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