LC shocks with 890 coils. what year LC shocks do i need?

[marcel]

i searched but couldnt really find anything but i know ive seen it on her. can anyone give me a quick answer?

 

[rjaudi]

1995 and I am running that set-up right now.

 

[J-money$$$]

I think the 890s will fall out with the lc shocks, but as long as you leave the rear sway bar on you should be okay. Just hope it doesn't break...

I know my 891's would fall out with the lc shocks. BTW its a tokico trek master GE4?????

 

[1985taylor1925]

890 springs are not long enough for LC shocks from what I remeber

I think the 890s will fall out with the lc shocks, but as long as you leave the rear sway bar on you should be okay. Just hope it doesn't break...

I know my 891's would fall out with the lc shocks. BTW its a tokico trek master GE4?????

This of course is only a concern if youre rock crawling and really flexing the axel. Im running lc shocks with 890s and like the ride very much. I go off road all the time because I do forestry work at a state forest here in WI. Ive never had any issues at all. But again, I dont rock crawl

 

[J-money$$$]

I edited my sig...

heres the long answer and its wordy. LC and all longer then stock shocks are intended for max flex on a 3rd gen. Ride actually suffers on the fancy long shocks and I'll get to that. You match up your shocks with your flex intentions. Longer shocks actually hinder how far you can compress the tire into the wheel well. All LC shocks fall into this category because they are 14+" compressed. Where the stock suspension can compress a shock to somewhere in the 12-13 inch range. Take that same long shock and mod or remove your sway bar to allow the full droop and now the short springs fall out. If you dont mod your droop ability, then you have just given yourself less suspension travel then the appropriate shorter shock you should have bought.

ride quality... If you run crappy shocks like me then it dosnt matter, but with a nice shock you will be ridding down the street in the last third of its travel. This will be a stiffer travel zone rather then where its intended to ride.

long story short...match your shock length to your suspension and spring length.

This man speaks the truth. LOL

 

[1985taylor1925]

I edited my sig...

heres the long answer and its wordy. LC and all longer then stock shocks are intended for max flex on a 3rd gen. Ride actually suffers on the fancy long shocks and I'll get to that. You match up your shocks with your flex intentions. Longer shocks actually hinder how far you can compress the tire into the wheel well. All LC shocks fall into this category because they are 14+" compressed. Where the stock suspension can compress a shock to somewhere in the 12-13 inch range. Take that same long shock and mod or remove your sway bar to allow the full droop and now the short springs fall out. If you dont mod your droop ability, then you have just given yourself less suspension travel then the appropriate shorter shock you should have bought.

ride quality... If you run crappy shocks like me then it dosnt matter, but with a nice shock you will be ridding down the street in the last third of its travel. This will be a stiffer travel zone rather then where its intended to ride.
long story short...match your shock length to your suspension and spring length.

I wrote about this a while back in my thread. I previously ran the lc 7.75 coils with my lc shocks. I didnt have any weight added in the back, and therefore the back end sat really high (with added weight it was a different ball game - rode great). Obviously the lc coils were designed for the heavier rear end of a LC, so they are further compressed in that case. On my truck I found that with the back end so high, the shocks were extended toward the top of their range. There was too much spring rate for that top region in the shocks, which led to a really bouncy ride in the back. Then I installed the 890s, and just like you said that means the shocks are further compressed and in a stiffer area. As a result the ride is much much better now. Much more planted and stable. It feels like the coils and shocks are properly matched. Obviously is a stiffer ride than stock suspension, but its better than when I had the lc coils.

Im only speaking on this based on my experience. Everything else you said I have no experience with and Im sure youre right.

 

[marcel]

thanks for the replies and information. i was hoping to save some money and get the LC shocks but i guess ill get OME shocks. are the bilsteins too long or will they work?

 

[binhsterbinh]

I'm running the 4Runner spec Bilstein HD yellow shocks in the rear with my 890's. I believe the shocks were slightly longer than my stock Tokicos (about 1/2"). I don't do any major offroading or drooping so have never had issues over extending. Some people complain that Bilstein HDs are too firm for stock springs, but with 890 springs, they feel feel well matched.

 

[marcel]

I run $40 shocks and Jmoney has $35 ones...there are some cheap shocks out there if you want to save money, but the correct bilsteins or OME should ride amazing. Oh and bilstiens come in all sizes so I dont know what one you are looking at.

Rear Bilstein Shocks for 96-02 4RUN - Toytec Lifts: Toyota Lift Kits: FJ Cruiser Lift Kits, Tacoma Lift Kits, Tundra Lift Kits, 4 Runner Lift Kits, Sequoia Lift Kits, Toyota Truck Lift Kits

those are the bilsteins i was talking about. should work right? or should i save a hundred bucks and go with procomps?