Leveling Kit Question???

duckman06

duckman06

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I just had the Daystart 2.5 front leveling kit installed and while it looks great it makes the back look lower then expected. It just like it offset it by rasing the front and then lowering the rear. I know that is not what happened but just wanted to give a mental pic.


My question is will this leveling kit settle down somewhat once it is driven and front end is alligned? The company that installed said it should after a while? So what if anything can be done to this and or what are you guys doing to offset the diffreance? I was thinking could get the rear kit also but then I am right back to sqaure one with the back being higher then the front.

As it stands right now looks good but again you can tell that it is not level but just by a little bit as the rear end looks lower. Please any help with this would be great.

thanks
 
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Then that's a problem as most guys go up to a max of 1.75 to level and .85 for a little rake. 2.5 might be truly level but could give the impression of backwards rake because of the body lines.
 
duckman06 said:
I just had the Daystart 2.5 front leveling kit installed and while it looks great it makes the back look lower then expected. It just like it offset it by rasing the front and then lowering the rear. I know that is not what happened but just wanted to give a mental pic.


My question is will this leveling kit settle down somewhat once it is driven and front end is alligned? The company that installed said it should after a while? So what if anything can be done to this and or what are you guys doing to offset the diffreance? I was thinking could get the rear kit also but then I am right back to sqaure one with the back being higher then the front.

As it stands right now looks good but again you can tell that it is not level but just by a little bit as the rear end looks lower. Please any help with this would be great.

thanks
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can u post a pic?
 
Definitely will have reverse rake w/ only a 2.5" front spacer. I have 2.5" of lift in the front and then the 1.5" Daystar rear spacer to level everything out....

A front only leveling kit should not lift more than 1.5" or so. You may notice that all the lift and/or leveling kits advertise that they raise the front about 1" more than the rear. That is why you will see them labeled as a 2.5/1.5 leveling kit or a 3/2 lift kit.

In the end you have 2 choices to correct the problem. Install the 1.5" spacer for the rear or swap your front 2.5" spacer for something 1.5" or less.
 
Stifler said:
03-09* Toyota 4Runner Cornfed Suspension Lift kits

scroll down to custom size. 1" is in stock and shipping just talked to him yesterday
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Thanks for the input. I just ordered the 1.5 inch rear kit from them. Also pictured below is the way it looks now.

Another couple of questions. 1. since will have 2.5 leveling kit on the front and 1.5 on the rear. 1. What are biggest size tires can I run without rubbing or causing problems? 2. This is stupid but i have to ask, Do i have to have the rear end alligned after the install of the 1.5 inch rear leveling kit? 3. Will there be any problems with running 2.5 daystar up front and cornfeed 1.5 in the wear.

Thanks to all who helps and who will be helping.
 

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Stifler said:
1. you can run 285s with minor inner fender modification 2. NOPE 3. NOPE
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The rear wouldn't need to be aligned as well after the 1.5 lift installed?

OP, check out the many lifted T4Rs in this thread. You will notice many people post their specs in their signatures. May give you a better idea of what you want yours to look like.

Post your LIFTED pix here!
 
duckman06 said:
I just had the Daystart 2.5 front leveling kit installed and while it looks great it makes the back look lower then expected. It just like it offset it by rasing the front and then lowering the rear. I know that is not what happened but just wanted to give a mental pic.


My question is will this leveling kit settle down somewhat once it is driven and front end is alligned? The company that installed said it should after a while? So what if anything can be done to this and or what are you guys doing to offset the diffreance? I was thinking could get the rear kit also but then I am right back to sqaure one with the back being higher then the front.

As it stands right now looks good but again you can tell that it is not level but just by a little bit as the rear end looks lower. Please any help with this would be great.

thanks
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Ya, you need the rear spacer to complete the kit to make it close to level .A rear spacer is a rear spacer is a rear spacer and not much technology involved with about 10 different people making them . Here is the rear one by Daystar that goes with the front one you installed......Daystar KT09127BK Comfort Ride 1.5" Rear Coil Spring Spacer Kit : Amazon.com : Automotive

And here's the whole kit..... http://www.daystarweb.com/productdetail.php?productID=1236

http://www.amazon.com/Daystar-KT091...UTF8&qid=1364945899&sr=1-1&keywords=KT09134BK

And you will need an front end alignment any time you do a lift or the camber and toe will be off. No rear alignment needed as it's a straight axle and the rear alignment won't change much.My rear tires have shown no effect in 50k miles since a lift but I do rotate them every 3k miles.
 
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harper7 said:
Ya, you need the rear spacer to complete the kit to make it close to level .A rear spacer is a rear spacer is a rear spacer and not much technology involved with about 10 different people making them . Here is the rear one by Daystar that goes with the front one you installed......Daystar KT09127BK Comfort Ride 1.5" Rear Coil Spring Spacer Kit : Amazon.com : Automotive

And here's the whole kit..... Daystar? - Driven by Design

Daystar KT09134BK Front and Rear Suspension Lift Kit for Toyota 4Runner : Amazon.com : Automotive

And you will need an front end alignment any time you do a lift or the camber and toe will be off. No rear alignment needed as it's a straight axle and the rear alignment won't change much.My rear tires have shown no effect in 50k miles since a lift but I do rotate them every 3k miles.
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Harper7,

Thanks for the info. I wished I would have talked to you earlier. As someone posted above about cornfeed rear kits and I called and ordered that rear kit for $120 and has already been shipped what a rip off then. That's what I get for not doing my homework.

Man oh man what a day!!! All I can do is laugh or throw up. oh well time will go on. I have already had my front end aligned today right after install of front leveling kit. Plus I am good at keeping tires rotated, pressures correct etc...

As far as tires go without rubbing and or cutting is there any bigger tires that will work weather it be wider or taller? I will be keeping OEM rims. Again thanks for all the help and guidance!
 
duckman06 said:
Harper7,

Thanks for the info. I wished I would have talked to you earlier. As someone posted above about cornfeed rear kits and I called and ordered that rear kit for $120 and has already been shipped what a rip off then. That's what I get for not doing my homework.

Man oh man what a day!!! All I can do is laugh or throw up. oh well time will go on. I have already had my front end aligned today right after install of front leveling kit. Plus I am good at keeping tires rotated, pressures correct etc...

As far as tires go without rubbing and or cutting is there any bigger tires that will work weather it be wider or taller? I will be keeping OEM rims. Again thanks for all the help and guidance!
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Don't feel so bad as I've read where people with Revtec and Rancho spacer lifts that paid close to $500 for them that do the exact same thing as the Daystar spacers. I have a brand new set of the rear Daystar spacers out in my garage that I never even used as I bought them when I first bought my truck. Spacer lifts were all were available for the first few months 5ths were out and I had Toytec 2" spacer lift on the front.

For stock wheels,most 275/70/17's fit with no rubbing at all . Alot of factors determine how much rubbing and how much work to remedy it with 33's like 285/70/17's including caster setting,tire manufacturer and model but it's not a big deal to fix.Alignment setting to the max caster that you can still retain zero camber moves the wheel forward and then pulling the fender liner forward by re-positioning the front attach holes gives about 1/2" or so more room in the front of the wheel. The problem is when lifting with stock UCA's you won't get much more then minimum caster setting.

Do you have the alignment specs or print out from your alignment today? No need to realign just for adding rear spacers.
 
Man...I can't believe what some of the manufacturers charge for spacers. I paid less than $40 for my Daystar 1.5" rear spacer. You could have just thrown in $50 more and gotten some new rear coils for the lift and even made it more functional. I guess we all live and learn. There are soooo many great guys on here more than willing to make sure nobody makes the same mistakes that they probably already did. Read everything you can on the forum and when in doubt, just ask...
 
FatTiresRollin said:
Man...I can't believe what some of the manufacturers charge for spacers. I paid less than $40 for my Daystar 1.5" rear spacer. You could have just thrown in $50 more and gotten some new rear coils for the lift and even made it more functional. I guess we all live and learn. There are soooo many great guys on here more than willing to make sure nobody makes the same mistakes that they probably already did. Read everything you can on the forum and when in doubt, just ask...
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Yes I feel the same way at least my mistake might help someone else in the future not to have to deal with this! I am a big beliver in what goes around comes around. While I know companies have to make $ but their is no need to overcharge by 50-100% of what is needed to make a profit!

Simply put I made a fast decisson and I am paying for it. Hey it's just money right and everyone has a lot of it! LOL!!! I will just be glad when the rear is leveled back out to match the front because right now it looks like I have a load in the rear. Just wish I would have been advised better by daystar as I stated all
I wanted to do is level the front out to match the rear and you can see that didn't happened. Mistakes happen and I made a good one but hopfully the results will end up being a good leveled out 4runner?

Again thanks to all and please let me know of any tires that I can run without rubbing and or cutting stuff that will look good. If factory size is the only size that can still be ran then in will run them till about 20,000 miles and replace.
 
Stock size tires are of course the safest bet, but 275/70/17 as Harper7 mentioned should fit with no trouble per several T4R.ORG members. Another note is the more aggressive you go, the more chance you have of rubbing. Based on my forum reading and research, you best 275 option will be the Cooper Discover AT/3. Not too many 275 options out there...the AT/3 is a mildly aggressive very positively reviewed tire.

Seriously though, the fender liner mod takes a few minutes with a heat gun or maybe 10-15 min sliding the liner forward. 285s will look a little better on your lifted vehicle, cost about the same as the 275s and you will have a ton more options (which may make it easier or harder). Sticking with stock wheels and no spacers gives you VERY minimal rubbing. Every truck is different and a handful have claimed no rubbing at all with less aggressive tires.

Good luck!
 
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