Looking Ahead to a Lift- Have some Towing Questions

Fleethammer

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Some background- I'm new to 4Runners (and ownership of any truck in general), and to towing as well. However, I've been towing all year since I bought my 2005 V8 Sport Edition and have grown accustomed to different types of trailers in different circumstances like going up and down winding mountain roads versus the Jersey Turnpike, rain and wind, getting passed by larger vehicles, etc. I feel very comfortable towing. My bone stock 'Runner has been a great TV for me, and has no problem pulling a 7X12 V-Nose steel framed trailer (1960 lbs empty), with two or three track bikes and all our gear and tools. I'm usually coming in just shy of 4000 lbs. The trailer has brakes and I use a Prodigy 2 controller. I tow a lot all over the mid-atlantic region.

I will eventually be doing a lift and tires but since I tow a lot, I wanted to find out how this will affect me. The truck sees mostly highway use, but I want the ability to take it off-road without too much fuss. I'm sorta set on the Radflo 2.5 OW-spec kit and larger tires.

My questions are: Will a lifted 'Runner be more or less stable when towing? I know that's a dumb question and in general the answer is always LESS, however reading threads where folks have gone with the popular lift choices, they have remarked about how much more stable the vehicle feels. This got me thinking that the aftermarket lift choices are vastly superior to the stock XREAS on my truck and thus negates the usual stability issues that come from raising the COG and such.

On tires- I assume the greater rubber of larger tires will also feel less stable than the stock 265's, correct? I was thinking either 265/70/17 since they seem like a good compromise for a TV and highway queen. Would 285's be suitable for a TV, or would they be too squishy? Would I require a re-gear with 285's as well?

Should I go with a stiffer spring rate, esp in the rear? I'm pretty good about loading the trailer, but it's almost impossible to get the 'Runner perfectly level when towing, at least with the droopy stock springs. I don't care for air bags as they don't address the root cause of the sag in the first place.

Thanks for all your help and sorry for the lengthy post!
 
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Some background- I'm new to 4Runners (and ownership of any truck in general), and to towing as well. However, I've been towing all year since I bought my 2005 V8 Sport Edition and have grown accustomed to different types of trailers in different circumstances like going up and down winding mountain roads versus the Jersey Turnpike, rain and wind, getting passed by larger vehicles, etc. I feel very comfortable towing. My bone stock 'Runner has been a great TV for me, and has no problem pulling a 7X12 V-Nose steel framed trailer (1960 lbs empty), with two or three track bikes and all our gear and tools. I'm usually coming in just shy of 4000 lbs. The trailer has brakes and I use a Prodigy 2 controller. I tow a lot all over the mid-atlantic region.

I will eventually be doing a lift and tires but since I tow a lot, I wanted to find out how this will affect me. The truck sees mostly highway use, but I want the ability to take it off-road without too much fuss. I'm sorta set on the Radflo 2.5 OW-spec kit and larger tires.

My questions are: Will a lifted 'Runner be more or less stable when towing? I know that's a dumb question and in general the answer is always LESS, however reading threads where folks have gone with the popular lift choices, they have remarked about how much more stable the vehicle feels. This got me thinking that the aftermarket lift choices are vastly superior to the stock XREAS on my truck and thus negates the usual stability issues that come from raising the COG and such.

On tires- I assume the greater rubber of larger tires will also feel less stable than the stock 265's, correct? I was thinking either 265/70/17 since they seem like a good compromise for a TV and highway queen. Would 285's be suitable for a TV, or would they be too squishy? Would I require a re-gear with 285's as well?

Should I go with a stiffer spring rate, esp in the rear? I'm pretty good about loading the trailer, but it's almost impossible to get the 'Runner perfectly level when towing, at least with the droopy stock springs. I don't care for air bags as they don't address the root cause of the sag in the first place.

Thanks for all your help and sorry for the lengthy post!

I don't have a lift on my ,03, which I use to tow three different trailers. So, I can't comment on how a lift will impact your vehicle's towing ability. But, if you lift much more than an inch, you will probably need to adjust or replace the ball mounts you use in order to maintain a level ride on the trailers you tow. If the trailers do not ride level, that could contribute to sway problems.
 
Thanks for the tip. My new trailer is lower than the old 5X8 I was using and I feel that stock the current height of the ball hitch is too high. The trailer is pitched up about 6 inches from the axle to the hitch. Once I lift, I would probably try a couple different drop hitches at a local shop to see which one leveled the trailer the best. I see you are local; It's funny how many 'runners I see now that I have one!

I don't have a lift on my ,03, which I use to tow three different trailers. So, I can't comment on how a lift will impact your vehicle's towing ability. But, if you lift much more than an inch, you will probably need to adjust or replace the ball mounts you use in order to maintain a level ride on the trailers you tow. If the trailers do not ride level, that could contribute to sway problems.
 
Thanks for the tip. My new trailer is lower than the old 5X8 I was using and I feel that stock the current height of the ball hitch is too high. The trailer is pitched up about 6 inches from the axle to the hitch. Once I lift, I would probably try a couple different drop hitches at a local shop to see which one leveled the trailer the best. I see you are local; It's funny how many 'runners I see now that I have one!

If you have the time, it isn't difficult to figure out what size drop ballmount you will need to provide a level ride for the trailer. With the truck empty, and on level ground, measure from the top edge of the square hole in the hitch receiver to the ground. Then, with the trailer frame level (not mounted to truck), measure from the bottom of the ball coupler to the ground. Subtract the trailer measurement from the truck measurement, and the difference is the amount of drop the ball mount should have to let the trailer ride level. A site, like E-trailer, that sells tow bars and hitches will have more detailed info, if needed.

Ever since I got my '03, I have been looking for 4Runners while driving, and I see quite a few, but so far none have had the forum stickers.
 

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