tx4runner93
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Just bought a new to me 93 4 cylinder 5 speed, just wondering what I can do for more power and trail riding! Thanks ahead
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MT Tatman
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Not too much as far as dramatic power gain goes....In my opinion, these trucks really shine in 4wd. Great gearing for the hills as a stock truck. I did minor mods to my rebuilt 22re, such as having the block bored 20 over out of necessity, buying a performance head and Crawler cam. It gives me a broader range of power with (seemingly) better torque. Now being in 2wd is great for mountain roads. My 2nd gear eats up the roads.
Good luck with your rig, and welcome to the forum!
Good luck with your rig, and welcome to the forum!
tx4runner93
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It is 4wd, what about engine swaps?
MT Tatman
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The only engine swaps I like are the crazy 350 Chevy small blocks, but then the driveline and everything ends up being swapped.....not cheap. These rigs are enjoyable as is or with reasonable mods....most of my friends are into rock crawling, so they stick with the 4 cyl and mod the suspension and gearing. Where I am there isn't many places for blasting around full bore.
tx4runner93
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So is it unusual for these trucks to be slow? 60-65 feels like it's about topped out...
Just trying to get a feel for it and know what is normal, I drive a cummins daily so I'm used to having a lot of power
Just trying to get a feel for it and know what is normal, I drive a cummins daily so I'm used to having a lot of power
MT Tatman
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Is it riding on stock size tires?
How many miles are on the motor?
Mine seemed kinda short on the top end, with over 300,000 miles on the truck. After an engine rebuild, it seems like 75 on the flats would be no problem, but these aren't the most powerful motors.
I still need to downshift into 4th on the hills. In the mountains however, it always did/does very well.
Compared to a big truck, this has little "Power!!!" but shines in the mountains in 1st &2nd, and eats up the mountain in 4wd!! The Toyota is for low speed fun and getting into places too small for big trucks.
Perfect mountain hunting rigs, and great for technical off road 4x4 fun!
Once you find it's nitch you will be glad to have it in your arsenal!
How many miles are on the motor?
Mine seemed kinda short on the top end, with over 300,000 miles on the truck. After an engine rebuild, it seems like 75 on the flats would be no problem, but these aren't the most powerful motors.
I still need to downshift into 4th on the hills. In the mountains however, it always did/does very well.
Compared to a big truck, this has little "Power!!!" but shines in the mountains in 1st &2nd, and eats up the mountain in 4wd!! The Toyota is for low speed fun and getting into places too small for big trucks.
Perfect mountain hunting rigs, and great for technical off road 4x4 fun!
Once you find it's nitch you will be glad to have it in your arsenal!
KidVermicious
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This comes up all the time. See this thread on the same page, for instance... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/classic-t4rs/175068-gen-1-22-re-4runner-need-tlc.html#post1770690
tx4runner93
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Thank you! Big help to me! Looks like this will be a trail and beer runner, I don't like being passed on the highay haha
You can put just about anything into these trucks.... its all about time and money. 3.4 are the most popular followed by the chevy 4.3. SBC and 5.0 as well as a few Toy V8's. A few diesels swaps exists but doubt it would satisfy your hp thirst. The biggest problem is once you double the hp, you'll start breaking stuff on the trail left and right. Then you'll find yourself swapping tcases, axles, etc.
More than likely, the answer to your immediate problem is making sure your somewhat in spec on the final drive ratio..... mainly tires and r/p. More than likely you have bigger tires than what the factory put on and no compensation on the gear ratio. So bascially what little power you had is getting sucked up by bad gearing. These are not fast cars but if you restore the proper ratio, you can do easy highway cruising 75+.
More than likely, the answer to your immediate problem is making sure your somewhat in spec on the final drive ratio..... mainly tires and r/p. More than likely you have bigger tires than what the factory put on and no compensation on the gear ratio. So bascially what little power you had is getting sucked up by bad gearing. These are not fast cars but if you restore the proper ratio, you can do easy highway cruising 75+.
tx4runner93
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Yes it has a 3" lift and 31"s, I'm thinking about a solid axle swap so I'll find the right gears when that happens
gtgt_bangbang
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Well then take your Cummings four wheeling, and leave this one the way the tao intended.
Killed it with your advice crash,
If you need a faster vehicle buy it , don't make it
Killed it with your advice crash,
If you need a faster vehicle buy it , don't make it
88Toy
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KidVermicious
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^ nice! I see some fender cutting, were you able to leave the firewall and core support stock?
88Toy
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Thanks. I have no desire to hijack this thread but will say that the firewall is unaltered and not much else is stock on this truck anymore. I just wanted to prove that these Toyotas can be built, not necessarily just bought! A 4.3 can be swapped in on a budget with minimal driveline mods and be reliable if the driver maintains a sense of good judgement. Of course, one thing usually leads to another...
flyinhawaiian01
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So many different swaps you could do, how much money you got??? :shrug:
Keeping it toyota makes for an easy swap, you could stuff a 5MGE in it, stock around 140hp, or turbo it (they work very well with a 7M turbo manifold and CT26, stock ecu handles up to 450hp). that engine used a W 5x transmission, I've seen it bolted to the stock truck's tranny (a W56 should be in yours), so no adapters needed.
You could spend a bit more and stuff a 7M in there too, slightly more work than the 5M, but gain more hp. Those also came with a turbo version, if you feel like spinnin' tires everywhere, that's the way to go!
3RZ/5RZ would work well too, there's kits out there to do the whole thing, but you'll be doing a lot more work to swap it all over, and it makes more sense to have a donor truck for the swap.
Chevy/Ford conversions are also out there. I'm not a fan of NWOR, but they have been around for decades, and if anyone has more info on a chevy swap, they would be the ones to know:
Toyota Engine Adapters, Ford, GM, Chevy V6, V-8 Conversion Kits
Diesel? Yep, you could do that too! It doesn't have to be that slow either! 5 cylinder merc swaps are fantastic, especially if you turbo that beast! Lots of money to do "right", but the end result is god-awful amounts of torque and fantastic gas mileage too!
If you wanna stick with a 22RE swap, there's a ton of guys out there building great 22RE engines. I've had a TCPerformance 22RE in mine for many years, the thing has tons of power, considering that I have 35's and 4.88 gearing, yet I can hold 90+ on the highway, and if I keep it below 60mph, I can pull 20mpg.
Wanna get crazy? Stuff this thing in there:
22R/RE Stage 5 Pro Stroker Race Long Block
400+hp from a 4 cylinder toyota engine? Only if you got 8 grand to play with!
Keeping it toyota makes for an easy swap, you could stuff a 5MGE in it, stock around 140hp, or turbo it (they work very well with a 7M turbo manifold and CT26, stock ecu handles up to 450hp). that engine used a W 5x transmission, I've seen it bolted to the stock truck's tranny (a W56 should be in yours), so no adapters needed.
You could spend a bit more and stuff a 7M in there too, slightly more work than the 5M, but gain more hp. Those also came with a turbo version, if you feel like spinnin' tires everywhere, that's the way to go!
3RZ/5RZ would work well too, there's kits out there to do the whole thing, but you'll be doing a lot more work to swap it all over, and it makes more sense to have a donor truck for the swap.
Chevy/Ford conversions are also out there. I'm not a fan of NWOR, but they have been around for decades, and if anyone has more info on a chevy swap, they would be the ones to know:
Toyota Engine Adapters, Ford, GM, Chevy V6, V-8 Conversion Kits
Diesel? Yep, you could do that too! It doesn't have to be that slow either! 5 cylinder merc swaps are fantastic, especially if you turbo that beast! Lots of money to do "right", but the end result is god-awful amounts of torque and fantastic gas mileage too!
If you wanna stick with a 22RE swap, there's a ton of guys out there building great 22RE engines. I've had a TCPerformance 22RE in mine for many years, the thing has tons of power, considering that I have 35's and 4.88 gearing, yet I can hold 90+ on the highway, and if I keep it below 60mph, I can pull 20mpg.
Wanna get crazy? Stuff this thing in there:
22R/RE Stage 5 Pro Stroker Race Long Block
400+hp from a 4 cylinder toyota engine? Only if you got 8 grand to play with!
tx4runner93
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What in the world are you going on about??! I already said I have never owned a 4runner and I'm asking questions... thank you to all the adults on here yall have been a big help! Looks like I may just stick with the 4 banger and just gear it to be a trail/crawler, is that the usual thing to do?
tx4runner93
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I would rather spend the money on flex instead of speed for this one