techno
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Don't bother with a conversion. Just pop down to Guatemala and drive a factory built LHD one back home.
Land Cruiser Hardtop Cofiño Stahl – Toyota Guatemala
NEW Land Rover Defender's To Come Back to US Market?
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Land Cruiser Hardtop Cofiño Stahl – Toyota Guatemala
JohnsD90
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Wow, just wow:
"The DC100 concepts feature a permanent four-wheel-drive system motivated by either a 2.0-liter gasoline or diesel engine paired to an eight-speed transmission. Both engines are part of a hybrid system." -news.consumerreports.org
the f*cking car that has never came with an automatic transmission other than the 1997 year in America and the 1998 Special edition in England, now is what seems a hybrid and an automatic. So lets look at the list:
Unibody
Hybrid
IFS
IRS
20+ inch rims
Not Complete Breakdown or even close for that matter
Soft top reminds me of that Nissan SUV Convertable
Electric offroading systems
Automatic
Now i don't know about you, but too me that list, doesnt describe the worlds longest running 4x4 nameplate. Some of those features may be good offroad, it may be immense to drive onroad, BUT being "good" offroad and "immense
onroad wasn't what the Series was built for, That was built to get the farmer around the farm and then hose it out at the end of the day, the electrician to wherever he needed to be and carry all his tools easily, allowed the Shadetree mechanic that owned it to repair it in the field with a basic wrench kit and a screwdriver, It also allowed the landscaper to get a dump body mounted on the back to carry all his equipment, and finally let the weekend warrior or winter driver get a cool 2nd car to d!ck around with on the trails or in the snow.
Truthfully, i dont mind it as a vehicle, i think the styling could be better in the front but it looks ok, i would have no problem if Land Rover made this, but for them to but a Defender Badge or a badge that even remotley f*cking implies that this pile of sh*t is the next Defender would just sicken me. If they called this the Freelander 3, i would say, thats a cool car, but to call it a Defender or DC100 is just a slap in the face at the series original designers.
I stick to my previous statements of asking Land Rover to let the Defender die, and move on. Truthfully, if they do make a New Defender i hope they get a Wrangler and rebuild a Land Rover on that, just like the first Land Rover was made.
"The DC100 concepts feature a permanent four-wheel-drive system motivated by either a 2.0-liter gasoline or diesel engine paired to an eight-speed transmission. Both engines are part of a hybrid system." -news.consumerreports.org
the f*cking car that has never came with an automatic transmission other than the 1997 year in America and the 1998 Special edition in England, now is what seems a hybrid and an automatic. So lets look at the list:
Unibody
Hybrid
IFS
IRS
20+ inch rims
Not Complete Breakdown or even close for that matter
Soft top reminds me of that Nissan SUV Convertable
Electric offroading systems
Automatic
Now i don't know about you, but too me that list, doesnt describe the worlds longest running 4x4 nameplate. Some of those features may be good offroad, it may be immense to drive onroad, BUT being "good" offroad and "immense
onroad wasn't what the Series was built for, That was built to get the farmer around the farm and then hose it out at the end of the day, the electrician to wherever he needed to be and carry all his tools easily, allowed the Shadetree mechanic that owned it to repair it in the field with a basic wrench kit and a screwdriver, It also allowed the landscaper to get a dump body mounted on the back to carry all his equipment, and finally let the weekend warrior or winter driver get a cool 2nd car to d!ck around with on the trails or in the snow.
Truthfully, i dont mind it as a vehicle, i think the styling could be better in the front but it looks ok, i would have no problem if Land Rover made this, but for them to but a Defender Badge or a badge that even remotley f*cking implies that this pile of sh*t is the next Defender would just sicken me. If they called this the Freelander 3, i would say, thats a cool car, but to call it a Defender or DC100 is just a slap in the face at the series original designers.
I stick to my previous statements of asking Land Rover to let the Defender die, and move on. Truthfully, if they do make a New Defender i hope they get a Wrangler and rebuild a Land Rover on that, just like the first Land Rover was made.
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JohnsD90
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Won't change a thing, especially on the 94-97 Soft Tops, as i have discussed on another forum they won't lose their value, the NAS 110 has that epic external cage. And there were not really too many Station wagon models so they will hold their value due to low supply as 1995 there were only 500 station wagons, and the 1997 models whether soft top or wagon will definetley hold their value as they are automatics the only year ever for a defender to have an automatic besides the 1998 UK special editions which was essentially a NAS spec defender in RHD.
This vehicle won't change the prices, its the 25 year exemptions allowing us to import the 83-86 110's and the 84-86 90's that are helping making the market a little easier to get a defender, but i doubt you will see the day the NAS ones lose their value to a lower cost than they are currently at...
Alt Freak
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Yea you're right but the market has steadily been going down. Looking at 97 D90s with the auto transmission, they were at a little over 40 grand with about 70,000-100,000 miles in February when I was considering purchasing one, and now I can find those vehicles closer to 30. The 110's will never go down until like you said the 25 year rule reaches it's model year.
