RichinRidgewood
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When the Big Boss says “stop clowning”
You,
a) clown
b) don’t clown
It’s that easy.
There are consequences.
You,
a) clown
b) don’t clown
It’s that easy.
There are consequences.
New power plant?
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Well, I've been here for a long time. Lurked from the very beginning when Thai and GatorGreg started this board, before finally joining. I've seen a lot of members come and go. I've even met a few members from here.
I don't know 'Jetboy', but I do know he contributed A LOT of good content.
You've been here about a year, and seem to mostly delight in stirring the pot.
Just an observation.
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RichinRidgewood
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It’s not about me it’s about the clowning. When the Boss says “stop clowning” you stop.
On most forums, talking about another members mom, dad, sister, brother wife, kids, family or name calling gets you an insta-ban or a timeout and then a ban.
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Balazzo556
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New Power Plant.
All 4Runner Enthusiasts,
I am new in the forum but I like to read and research about old, current and future vehicles.
I think Toyota needs to look in not only a power plant but also an upgrade in the transmission. Those 28 to 32 MPG, it is not only from engine but also a developed transmission. Yes, Toyota is behind the other automakers with the five speed transmission. Instead, Toyota should develop a eight or even nine speed transmission. This will increase the MGP and performance of the SUV and mid-size truck.
Many auto magazines talk about other automakers with eight, nine and even ten speed transmission. But Toyota still building 4Runners and Tacomas with five speeds.... wake up Toyota. Your engines are indestructible but you need to improve the transmission.
my thoughts. thank you
All 4Runner Enthusiasts,
I am new in the forum but I like to read and research about old, current and future vehicles.
I think Toyota needs to look in not only a power plant but also an upgrade in the transmission. Those 28 to 32 MPG, it is not only from engine but also a developed transmission. Yes, Toyota is behind the other automakers with the five speed transmission. Instead, Toyota should develop a eight or even nine speed transmission. This will increase the MGP and performance of the SUV and mid-size truck.
Many auto magazines talk about other automakers with eight, nine and even ten speed transmission. But Toyota still building 4Runners and Tacomas with five speeds.... wake up Toyota. Your engines are indestructible but you need to improve the transmission.
my thoughts. thank you
Y'all can say that I predicted in 2017. They Hybrid is in the Tundra
2022 Toyota Tundra packs hybrid power and a big interior upgrade - Roadshow
....You know what's next.
Send your flames my way. :wink2:
2022 Toyota Tundra packs hybrid power and a big interior upgrade - Roadshow
....You know what's next.
Send your flames my way. :wink2:
Colorado buff
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Nice call! New tundra looks way better than 2021 tundra. I don’t like trucks as much as 4runner but even I was like wow!
Baystate4Runner
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Your good friend is wrong. The 2023 4Runner will have the current 4.0 liter V6 as the MY23 will still be 5th Gen.
MY2024 is the earliest the 6th Gen will come out and with it new engines.
FiveO4Runner
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I just dont see why they cant just squeeze more power out of the current motor and maybe up the gearing on the transmission. If you look at all the twin turbo V6s on full size trucks, the mpg increase is so minimal, I would rather take the reliablity of the NA motor and suck it up on the economy aspect.
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Annolino122
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Cafe standards - there is a reason the V6 has been around so long. Toyota designed it for future standards. They most likely have to do it again, and without a gasoline after treatment system costing a lot of money, the standards for emissions are getting very tight.
Blackwatch
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So the 2022 Land Cruiser has 3 engine choices. The 3.44 tt that’s going on the tundra, a turbo diesel with over 500 lb ft of torque and the 4.0 litre V6.
Why wouldn’t Toyota put the Lexus 2.4 turbo in that is rumoured to be going in the 6th generation 4Runner?
The LC300 is a completely new build so it doesn’t make sense. My hunch is the diesel and the 4.0 will be in 75%+ of LC which will allow it to maintain its most reliable vehicle in the world reputation.
Maybe I’m reading too much into it but if the 2.4 turbo is better than the 4.0 then why put an ancient engine in their redesigned flagship SUV?
Why wouldn’t Toyota put the Lexus 2.4 turbo in that is rumoured to be going in the 6th generation 4Runner?
The LC300 is a completely new build so it doesn’t make sense. My hunch is the diesel and the 4.0 will be in 75%+ of LC which will allow it to maintain its most reliable vehicle in the world reputation.
Maybe I’m reading too much into it but if the 2.4 turbo is better than the 4.0 then why put an ancient engine in their redesigned flagship SUV?
Jetboy
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I think the 4.0 has two big advantages - it's more reliable in the harshest conditions. And it's very cheap to manufacture, maintain, and repair. Many fewer parts. And there's a lot of parts availability globally. I don't think it's inherently better or worse, but probably just better for the specific markets.
GhostTrain
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Disappointing to hear that the 2.4 Turbo 4 might be the only option.
Like a lot of others commenting online in various areas, this engine choice is a non-starter for me and I think we'll see in the coming years that big, heavy SUVs with turbo fours do not mix.
I don't take my current T4R off road but I do tow so a six cylinder is a must.
Give me a hybrid six, a turbo six, a NA six, a twin turbo six. Hell, I'd be happy with the six from the X5.
And buying a 2022 4Runner or earlier model doesn't seem smart from a MPG standpoint as it's become clear gas prices clearly depend on who's in the White House.
Like a lot of others commenting online in various areas, this engine choice is a non-starter for me and I think we'll see in the coming years that big, heavy SUVs with turbo fours do not mix.
I don't take my current T4R off road but I do tow so a six cylinder is a must.
Give me a hybrid six, a turbo six, a NA six, a twin turbo six. Hell, I'd be happy with the six from the X5.
And buying a 2022 4Runner or earlier model doesn't seem smart from a MPG standpoint as it's become clear gas prices clearly depend on who's in the White House.
shiftgear
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Everyone complains about the T4R power plant. Under powered and horrible MPGs and I couldn't agree more. Now Toyota is down another notch with the new Bronco Eco Boost option, which is a strong motor and much better MPGs.
Since Toyota can't make a decent engine and get decent MPGs they will have to go to a Hybrid option. They could be looking at the GS450H drive train (3.5-liter V6 Hybrid) with 31 MPG. Put that in the box of a 4runner and maybe get 25?
A hybrid off road would be pretty cool. Lot's of torque and quiet so you don't scary the hikers.
I didn't buy a T4R for gas mileage, hell my 2008 Toyota Tacoma has the SAME engine... I think N/A is more reliable than a turbo motor, so I'd take a v8/v6 over a turbo 4c/hybrid any day.
SoCalDriver
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We currently have a 17 Acura MDX AWD with the V6, with the cylinder deactivation. Decent power, smooth, has been 100% trouble free…AND despite its large size and AWD it gets about 27 MPG on the highway if I keep it about 70 mph or so. I’ve always wondered why more companies don’t use this technology? It’s a great engine.
I’m currently trying to hold out for a redesigned 4Runner but it doesn’t seem like there’s even any official confirmation that the redesign is coming for the 23 model…and a 4 cyl would be a no-go for me.
I’m currently trying to hold out for a redesigned 4Runner but it doesn’t seem like there’s even any official confirmation that the redesign is coming for the 23 model…and a 4 cyl would be a no-go for me.
Blackwatch
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I had a V6 Accord with the same tech, it would get 36-38 mpg on the highway but you have to replace the timing belt every 100,000 miles.
It seems like the 2.4 litre turbo is a foregone conclusion so I wouldn't wait for the 6th gen runner.
I'd be very happy with a front end redesign and an 8 sp auto. Make it look more like the LC300. Oh, and a heated steering wheel!
borfoo3
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Because people out here in the Middle East are already overheating the LC300 3.5TT in the dunes... poor 2.4 wouldn't stand a chance :bounce:
There's a reason why the safari tour lc200's in Dubai all run the 6mt 4.0.. lightest trim and that thing can take a beating
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