New: TRD Pro or ORP?

[Charles Bronson]

My wife was dead set on a Pro when were looking to buy in the summer of 2020 because she liked the look of the Pro, specifically the wheels, tires, and grill. I convinced her to get a ORP and told her we could make it a visual Pro clone minus the Pro roof rack (which she didn't like anyways).

2020 Pros were going for MSRP at the time. We got our 2020 ORP for $38.5K (list was $44.2K). We spent around $3,000 in OEM parts including the Pro wheels, OEM Nitto tires, Pro grill, Pro exhaust, the running boards most Pros run, roof rack cross bars, black out lettering, front and rear black facias covers used on the Pro, and Pro LED foglights. The Pro exhaust was a terrible idea (tons of drone) and was removed after one year of use. Thus, we could have done all the work for $2,200. Short of installing the tires on the wheels, the wife and I installed all the parts.

All an ORP needs is proper tires to make off road capable for 99.6% of the situations most of us would put it in.

The only thing I miss by not having a Pro is automatic climate control. We'll likely install after shocks on her ORP at some point as the stock shocks are good, but not great.

 

[WildSockets]

Its an option.

Except in Canada, where KDSS comes with all TRD ORs.

 

[markupsorg]

We are seeing some serious markups getting submitted on PRO's!

 

[bzizzi]

My advice on KDSS is drive both if possible, make sure you take on a twisty road and over some speed bumps or rough terrain. I had without KDSS and my new has KDSS, won't buy another 4R without KDSS.

 

[sonjason]

I love the KDSS for daily use... I don't do hardcore offroading that some of the KDSS haters do.

 

[repo]

Another vote for ORP. All you really want is the most basic model with a rear diff locker, which is difficult to add as a mod after the fact. KDSS would also be difficult to add but I don't see the point unless you are going to be flexing the suspension often. The poor man KDSS is to simply unbolt the sway bars. Lowering psi goes a long way in comfort off road, spend the savings on a compressor and other stuff. It's also one more thing to break or wear out one day and extra crap to work around with upgrades or repairs. If you want a different street ride you can just change your suspension set up.

 

[repo]

Unless you want a trd pro specific color I think you’d be happy with an off road. As far as the suspension goes I went from an sr5 to an off-road with kdss and I noticed the ride seems to be a little stiffer with a little less body roll. For what you’re using the truck for I think you might even be able to get away with an sr5 premium and save some money. A-trac is very capable and can get you out of some very sticky situations with ease.

I have to agree with this. It's good having all the extras "just in case" but an sr5 with a good lift and tires goes a long way for sure. To tell you the truth I've never actually tried out the a-trac on mine, not even sure how to work it. Now I think about it I haven't ever touched any of the knobs up there I forget I have them switching between the 3rd gen and back. You can always add an air locker or Detroit locker or whatever on the diff one day if you feel the urge.

This is a grumpy old bastard thing to say but I sort of wonder if going to straight to all the gizmos lets you skip over some skills/patience gained from driving something super basic.

Switching my vote to an sr5 + lift + tires as cougar suggests. Can throw some poly sway bar bushings and disco end links (if they make them?) in to the mix if you feel like.

 

[awocsb]

I've owned a 2016 ORP w/ KDSS and a 2021 TRD Pro. The difference in the handling of the KDSS is noticeable, but some may not prefer the ride.

 

[Mark4runnar]

I just took delivery of a 2022 TRD PRO. I had to travel back to New England to take because the dealers in south west florida " add on cram downs" (extra $600 for toyota care, fake wax $400, interior light upgrade for $200) this nonsense can add + $1000 to $2000 - BEFORE MKT ADJUSTMENT?. They told me 6 months to get one.
In New England the local dealer sells them at MSRP, no "cram downs" of stuff you don't want...Toyota Care is included, and they delivered a TRD PRO in 75 days from my $1000 deposit.

My son has a Trail (early name for TRD off Road) --- with KDDS. It handles way better in the curves that the Limited we bought new in 2014.

I can't compare the 2022 TRD PRO to the TRD off Road with KDDS because I have not driven the TRD PRO. I picked it up with 2 miles on the odometer, and drove it less than 5 miles and it's in storage until I get back to New England in May.

The short version is that I bought the PRO, because I wanted some of the features and do not plan to modify the suspension. I also did not want to get shut out when they announce the 23 re-do and you can't get one.
If the re-do is "solid" - I will buy a 24 and sell the 2014 when it gets delivered.

 

[EDC4rnr]

I purchased my trd off-road premium with kdss back in 2018 and added the fj trail teams suspension, trd wheels, all terrain tires and grill. It’s now a pro wannabe with kdss At the time pros were going for 50k+ so I saved a couple grand modding it myself. I feel if your not gonna be modding it much just get a pro since you like the way it looks and it comes with everything you ll ever need for driving to the beach and much more.


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[Itchynuts]

I had both kdss and non kdss, the kdss does drive better on windy roads but that being said my current is a non kdss due to the potential failures and mine is lifted