"Official" 5th Gen 4Runner Sales Thread

[1engineer]

So, in order to keep [MENTION=62425]Ryan1975[/MENTION] happy, we will start a "sales" thread that will be updated every month. In addition to numbers, we will also include any factual news updates with respect to the 5th Gen 4Runner. So let's get this started:

For 2016, the 5th Gen 4Runner sold around 112,000 units. That is over 2X what was sold in 2010. Now, for fun, let's compare the 4Runner sales to other brand sales for 2016. These are vehicles that I see, even though the capabilities are not the same, that might be cross shopped against a 4Runner by an average consumer. The first number is their total class sales rank.
(rounded off to the nearest thousand)

2016 Total Sales
5. Ford Explorer: 216,000
7. Jeep Grand Cherokee: 212,000
9. Jeep Wrangler: 192,000
10. Toyota Highlander: 191,000
11. Subaru Outback: 183,000
12. Subaru Forester: 179,000
16. Honda Pilot: 121,000
20. Toyota 4Runner: 112,000
21. Lexus RX: 109,000
23. Chevy Tahoe: 103,000
32. Nissan Pathfinder: 82,000
36. Dodge Durango: 68,000
39. Acura MDX: 55,000
40. Lexus NX: 55,000
47. BMW X5: 48,000
62. Lexus GX: 25,000
76. Porsche Cayenne: 15,000
77. Land Rover Discovery: 14,000
80. Toyota Sequoia: 13,000
94. Toyota Land Cruiser: 4,000

 

[Car Nut]

So, in order to keep [MENTION=62425]Ryan1975[/MENTION] happy, we will start a "sales" thread that will be updated every month. In addition to numbers, we will also include any factual news updates with respect to the 5th Gen 4Runner. So let's get this started:

For 2016, the 5th Gen 4Runner sold around 112,000 units. That is over 2X what was sold in 2010. Now, for fun, let's compare the 4Runner sales to other brand sales for 2016. These are vehicles that I see, even though the capabilities are not the same, that might be cross shopped against a 4Runner by an average consumer. The first number is their total class sales rank.
(rounded off to the nearest thousand)

2016 Total Sales
5. Ford Explorer: 216,000
7. Jeep Grand Cherokee: 212,000
9. Jeep Wrangler: 192,000
10. Toyota Highlander: 191,000
11. Subaru Outback: 183,000
12. Subaru Forester: 179,000
16. Honda Pilot: 121,000
20. Toyota 4Runner: 112,000
21. Lexus RX: 109,000
23. Chevy Tahoe: 103,000
32. Nissan Pathfinder: 82,000
36. Dodge Durango: 68,000
39. Acura MDX: 55,000
40. Lexus NX: 55,000
47. BMW X5: 48,000
62. Lexus GX: 25,000
76. Porsche Cayenne: 15,000
77. Land Rover Discovery: 14,000
80. Toyota Sequoia: 13,000
94. Toyota Land Cruiser: 4,000

Wow, 4Runner sold more than the Chevy Tahoe.

I don't see this going away.

 

[Toffees]

So, in order to keep [MENTION=62425]Ryan1975[/MENTION] happy, we will start a "sales" thread that will be updated every month. In addition to numbers, we will also include any factual news updates with respect to the 5th Gen 4Runner. So let's get this started:

For 2016, the 5th Gen 4Runner sold around 112,000 units. That is over 2X what was sold in 2010. Now, for fun, let's compare the 4Runner sales to other brand sales for 2016. These are vehicles that I see, even though the capabilities are not the same, that might be cross shopped against a 4Runner by an average consumer. The first number is their total class sales rank.
(rounded off to the nearest thousand)

2016 Total Sales
5. Ford Explorer: 216,000
7. Jeep Grand Cherokee: 212,000
9. Jeep Wrangler: 192,000
10. Toyota Highlander: 191,000
11. Subaru Outback: 183,000
12. Subaru Forester: 179,000
16. Honda Pilot: 121,000
20. Toyota 4Runner: 112,000
21. Lexus RX: 109,000
23. Chevy Tahoe: 103,000
32. Nissan Pathfinder: 82,000
36. Dodge Durango: 68,000
39. Acura MDX: 55,000
40. Lexus NX: 55,000
47. BMW X5: 48,000
62. Lexus GX: 25,000
76. Porsche Cayenne: 15,000
77. Land Rover Discovery: 14,000
80. Toyota Sequoia: 13,000
94. Toyota Land Cruiser: 4,000

No Yukon? That's the same as the Tahoe, right?

 

[philsey]

.....we will also include any factual news updates with respect to the 5th Gen 4Runner.

:wow:

 

[1engineer]

Wow, 4Runner sold more than the Chevy Tahoe.

I don't see this going away.

....which is why I did what I did.

No Yukon? That's the same as the Tahoe, right?

Not the same. They have a lot of common parts though and I think they sold like 40K last year.

The takeaway from the post is how the 4Runner outsold several common and popular vehicles. It is not a niche vehicle by any means.

 

[bofa]

So few BOF vehicles on that list... or in general. :grouphug:

 

[mybabydaddy]

"Official" 5th Gen 4Runner Sales Thread

I know we've talked about this before, but seriously, I cannot explain how many dang 4Runners there around DFW. I'm starting to see them like I used to see Honda Pilots.... it's crazy.

Edit: I just realized that seemingly came out negative, but that wasn't the intention. [emoji51]

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[philsey]

Been pondering Greg's list ....

Came across something that really surprised me - the 4R outsold the RX.

Around here, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an RX (or a CRV). Maybe because the newest gen RX looks like ass, but surprised still.

 

[1engineer]

My whole point is you don't discontinue a nameplate, especially one that is selling 100K a year. If i were the one calling the shots I would just make a few changes every now and then, wheels, light, etc and ride it til 2019 or 2020. Like Tacoma a few years ago, it has no real direct competition that is exactly like the 4Runner. When I did change it, I would do the same thing as they do on Tacoma's and offer a "technology" package that has all the cross traffic and blind spot and adaptive cruise and collision avoidance stuff. Some of us actually enjoy driving still.

 

[Car Nut]

My whole point is you don't discontinue a nameplate, especially one that is selling 100K a year.

If i were the one calling the shots I would just make a few changes every now and then, wheels, light, etc and ride it til 2019 or 2020. Like Tacoma a few years ago, it has no real direct competition that is exactly like the 4Runner. When I did change it, I would do the same thing as they do on Tacoma's and offer a "technology" package that has all the cross traffic and blind spot and adaptive cruise and collision avoidance stuff. Some of us actually enjoy driving still.

They do "if" they can't meet Gov't regulations.

They quit the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Trans Am in 2002 because GM could not meet requirements.

I've seen several popular cars discontinued because of red tape BS. :gun4:

 

[elemint]

Every business, every invention, every technology will lose by thinking they have not competition. If toyota does what you only make changes now and then they will end up losing to the competition. The Waggoner is coming back, the Bronco is coming back. The new Expedition is coming. Toyota will have a new updayed 4R. They are too smart not to be left in the dust.

My whole point is you don't discontinue a nameplate, especially one that is selling 100K a year. If i were the one calling the shots I would just make a few changes every now and then, wheels, light, etc and ride it til 2019 or 2020. Like Tacoma a few years ago, it has no real direct competition that is exactly like the 4Runner. When I did change it, I would do the same thing as they do on Tacoma's and offer a "technology" package that has all the cross traffic and blind spot and adaptive cruise and collision avoidance stuff. Some of us actually enjoy driving still.

 

[1engineer]

They do "if" they can't meet Gov't regulations.

They quit the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Trans Am in 2002 because GM could not meet requirements.

I've seen several popular cars discontinued because of red tape BS. :gun4:

They quit making it because of lack of interest and low sales at the time. Regulations and CAFE had nothing to do with it.
You do know that the Mustang was the biggest seller in all the sporty car market. The 4Runner outsold it. As a matter of fact the 4Runner outsold the 2016 Camaro by almost 2:1 and the Challenger almost 3:1.

Every business, every invention, every technology will lose by thinking they have not competition. If toyota does what you only make changes now and then they will end up losing to the competition. The Waggoner is coming back, the Bronco is coming back. The new Expedition is coming. Toyota will have a new updayed 4R. They are too smart not to be left in the dust.

The Wagoneer is supposed to compete with the Cadillac in price. The Bronco will be nice except it's a Ford and all the issues that come with it.

But none of that matters because there is no Bronco or Wagoneer yet.

Now, I am the one who made the above post. Not Toyota. Who knows what they will do.

 

[Vinsil]

I hope they continue on. I'd like to buy another for retirement years once this one gets regulated to "toy".

The numbers are impressive. They are not super common here. I see 5 Tahoes to each 4Runner, but those numbers are impressive.:trophy:

 

[Car Nut]

They quit making it because of lack of interest and low sales at the time. Regulations and CAFE had nothing to do with it.
You do know that the Mustang was the biggest seller in all the sporty car market. The 4Runner outsold it. As a matter of fact the 4Runner outsold the 2016 Camaro by almost 2:1 and the Challenger almost 3:1.

The Wagoneer is supposed to compete with the Cadillac in price. The Bronco will be nice except it's a Ford and all the issues that come with it.

But none of that matters because there is no Bronco or Wagoneer yet.

Now, I am the one who made the above post. Not Toyota. Who knows what they will do.

Mustang/Camaro Sales
2000: 218,525/ 45,417

Between the Camaro and Trans Am GM was still selling 50,000 units per year.

But the Ford Mustang was doing 4x that, even though the Camaro had better quality, superior LS1 engine and destroyed the mustang at the strip.

Camaro had the LS1 engine with 350HP and with a few cheap mods was easily at 400HP.

Camaro had the identical engine as the Corvette and same transmission, yet the Corvette continued on with way less sales.

Both performed the same at the track.

Corvette was a 2 seater, $50,000.

Camaro was a 4 seater, $22,000 :nod:

 

[1engineer]

Mustang/Camaro Sales
2000: 218,525/ 45,417

Between the Camaro and Trans Am GM was still selling 50,000 units per year.

But the Ford Mustang was doing 4x that, even though the Camaro had better quality, superior LS1 engine and destroyed the mustang at the strip.

Camaro had the LS1 engine with 350HP and with a few cheap mods was easily at 400HP.

Camaro had the identical engine as the Corvette and same transmission, yet the Corvette continued on with way less sales.

Both performed the same at the track.

Corvette was a 2 seater, $50,000.

Camaro was a 4 seater, $22,000 :nod:

Dude...

 

[Ryan1975]

They do "if" they can't meet Gov't regulations.

They quit the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Trans Am in 2002 because GM could not meet requirements.

I've seen several popular cars discontinued because of red tape BS. :gun4:

False. The F-Bodies were discontinued due union and plant issues with Canadian production facility.

 

[Ryan1975]

[MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION]

8,699 For January 2017, up 16% from Jan 16.

Oh and

 

[LandCruiser]

BOF SUVs are more or less dead, but if manufacturers aren't held at gunpoint to gas mileage standards for the next 8-10 years, at least we won't see any pruning of existing models. If the market is any indication, most sane Americans don't want anything to do with small cars and continue to buy BOF SUVs and trucks.

We've already felt the pain from eco gearing, gutless transmission shift points, and an ECM that doesn't seem to understand what it means to bury the gas pedal.

 

[Ryan1975]

BOF SUVs are more or less dead, but if manufacturers aren't held at gunpoint to gas mileage standards for the next 8-10 years, at least we won't see any pruning of existing models. If the market is any indication, most sane Americans don't want anything to do with small cars and continue to buy BOF SUVs and trucks.

We've already felt the pain from eco gearing, gutless transmission shift points, and an ECM that doesn't seem to understand what it means to bury the gas pedal.

Howdy neighbor. I'm just south of Baptist Rd. I read this week that Ford has told Emporer Trump that fuel economy standards are killing profitability. Industry is seeking relief.

 

[1engineer]

Just a note, the 4Runner outsold the Colorado/Canyon twins in January by around 4K units. Just sayin'.