Official Reveal Thread 2025 6th gen 4Runner

[KimchiJae]

From the Toyota video of the 4Runner Press Conference: 2025 Toyota 4Runner Press Conference Reveal | Toyota - YouTube

They showed a photo of the Platinum and what the 3rd row looks like (screenshots attached).

I remember when black trim signified the base model. Black door handles, black mirrors, black trim.

I must be getting old. When I was younger, I had a strong disdain for silver cars because it was boring and only old people picked it.

The silver looks great here (albeit its a render). Guess I'll have to accept I'm old now.

 

[qs933]

I must be getting old. When I was younger, I had a strong disdain for silver cars because it was boring and only old people picked it.

The silver looks great here (albeit its a render). Guess I'll have to accept I'm old now.

White cars too. Boring.

Fast forward and my last 4 vehicles have been white. And if I get a 6th Gen 4Runner, it'll probably be white. I'm just not thrilled with the black door handles on the Platinum. I didn't like it on the 5th Gen Nightshade Limited in Blizzard Pearl.

 

[Colorado buff]

Toyota can't seem to keep the main bearings lubricated in the GCC spec LC300, the Tundra, or the LS. Maybe the T24A will be better. But the V35A has a global reputation developing for eating main bearings. It's not turbo specific, but the V35A has not been a winner. And toyota does not have a history of long lasting GASOLINE turbo engines. That doesn't mean the T24A is going to be less reliable than the 1GR. But I think it's worth considering that the GCC spec LC300 chose the 1GR over the T24A. I like the power curve of the T24A. I do think it's undersized for the application.

The loss of the v8 was a mistake. It was an intentional downgrade by Toyota who at the time intended to kill the 4Runner making the 5th gen its last generation. And - do you remember the 2.7L 4Runner? Toyota engineers actually thought a 150hp 4cyl in a 4700lb SUV with a 4 speed was a good idea. It's not all roses and butterflies. Toyota screws up a lot of products. look at the Sequoia for a great example. Or the new Tundra - in many ways it got measurably worse than the outgoing model. Smaller cabin, smaller bed, lighter duty running gear, less reliable, poor outward visibility, poor assembly quality. I turned down the Tundra that came in I was going to buy because of build quality after the test drive and bought a clean prior gen instead. It wasn't good enough to have a spot in my driveway.

I personally like the new powertrain options. But I also think Toyota made a major strategic mistake in not making an I6 with the V35A. Toyota should have done a Toyota version of the B58 - that would allow Toyota to have only 2 engine blocks (4cyl and 6cyl) that could range from NA 2.7ish 4cyl, Turbo 4, and single and twin turbo 6cyl options. That allows every horse power segment to be covered. 200, 250, 300, 350. And it could be supplemented by hybrids in every step along that ladder. Plus both engines are diesel compatible base designs, so they could use the same blocks for the 2.8 diesel and a new 6cyl inline diesel in both turbo and non-turbo applications across the range of products for global markets. All with shared engineering, parts, etc. of only two basic designs.

The biggest issues I see are the body - it sucks. There is too much real estate wasted by the new "cab back" design. The roof is too low - head height is already an issue in the prototypes without sunroofs. It'll be unusable for full height adults in the middle row. The rear door is tiny. So it's also not kid friendly. There's no longer a seat pass through, so you can't put skis inside with 4 seats up. The rear cargo area isn't a fold flat. How is that possible? They have a clean sheet re-design, build a SUV that's pretty clearly targeted at having only people in the front seats most of the time, yet don't make the cargo area fold flat? Hopefully the rear seats are at least easy to remove.

And the nonsensical restrictions Toyota uses to make sure there's no way to spec the most desirable combinations. No way to combine awd with off-road features. Not offering the hd powertrain in either the LC250 or 4R. Not offering a v6 in the LC250. Not offering the LC250 or Sequoia w/o the hybrid option. No awd in the sequoia or tundra. The list of hard to explain exclusions is pretty long.

I think the new 4Runner will sell well for the first few years at least. It's just not for me. I'm too tall by the looks of the journalists sitting in them. And I'd opt for the LC250 just for the more moderate styling and outward visibility. And I hope they move on from CALTY for the next generation of GA-F designs. Almost everything coming out of CALTY is sub-par.

I don’t get how the vehicle is 5 inches longer and the cabin seems much smaller. Too me that’s a fail. The technology looks good but the design aesthetics to me are crap. Agree, if I have the money it’s Land Cruiser all the way. And maybe that’s Toyotas plan.

 

[Jetboy]

The Taco/4R/LC250 T24A is not the same as the one in the transverse mounted applications. IIRC it shares around 35% of the parts with the transverse version and has about 65% of parts that are different. It is intended to be more durable than the car version. Part of the re-work and modification to run 87 octane fuel is increasing the service life about 30%. Toyota has two different expected service lives for cars vs trucks. We won't know for a while whether it's better, worse, or about the same as the 1GR. I'd say with almost 100% confidence it'll last shorter lifespan than the 1GR because the 1GR is so refined by now. Doesn't mean it's not good. Just won't know for a few years. I don't see many turbos lasting 300k miles, but you never know. If Toyota has figured out how to make an 8.2" differential handle 7,500 ft lbs of input torque - maybe they've solved the turbo that lasts forever too.


Second thought:

Where is the PHEV model?? The hybrid doesn't have enough juice to make a good tow vehicle up mountain passes. PHEV battery size fixes that. And it could be great for local EV use.

 

[KimchiJae]

White cars too. Boring.

Fast forward and my last 4 vehicles have been white. And if I get a 6th Gen 4Runner, it'll probably be white. I'm just not thrilled with the black door handles on the Platinum. I didn't like it on the 5th Gen Nightshade Limited in Blizzard Pearl.

Yep! My next car will likely be white.

That being said, be careful with the non metallic white Toyota sells. I believe they renamed it because it built up such a bad reputation but they didn't change the formula. I believe its prone to chipping and peeling.

 

[snap315]

I still miss my 4th Gen... But...

I had and loved a 4th Gen 4Runner V8 Limited. She was an AMAZINGLY Capable vehicle overall.

The 5th Gen never appealed to me for several reasons (poor powertrain, limited technology, poor overall handling). I do like seeing what some people do to the 5th Gens by way of modifications, but the base package always left me wanting more.

I think (and HOPE) that this new 6th Gen is that Something More!

While the powertrain still isn't where I'd like it (they gave the new Sequoia 437hp and 583 pound-feet of torque!) it is a step in the right direction. And the other changes look good to me so far. They didn't delete anything I really wanted (still has great offroad features, rolldown rear window, etc).

I'll wait to see what the price and initial reviews say, but this just MIGHT get me back into a Toyota 4Runner!

 

[qs933]

Yep! My next car will likely be white.

That being said, be careful with the non metallic white Toyota sells. I believe they renamed it because it built up such a bad reputation but they didn't change the formula. I believe its prone to chipping and peeling.

My very first 4Runner (2005 Sport Edition) was the non-metallic white. Natural White or something like that. I've heard that Toyota does not use a separate clear coat with the non-metallic white.

There was a service campaign available for certain Toyotas in Blizzard Pearl due to peeling. Haven't had an issue with any of my Blizzard Pearl Toyotas. My RAV4 Prime is Windchill Pearl, which is what I'm assuming will be available on the '25 4Runner.

I am glad that they didn't go down the 2-tone roof path.

 

[Jetboy]

Toyota super white 040 color was used on many vehicles. It is a single stage color and very thin. It is also very hard to repair properly because almost no body shops are well trained or equipped to paint in single stage. They will invariably use a base/clear and that will never quite match. But - it's not very glossy white, so it's pretty hard to see any errors. That's why I chose white on mine - if you plan to go play hard in the dirt, you'll probably be replacing panels over time as you damage them and white is the easiest to color match. After a lot of time with it - I would probably go with a color that has a clear coat. The reparability doesn't necessarily offset the very thin paint that is prone to scratches that are harder or impossible to correct. If I did buy superwhite or similar again - I would get a high quality ceramic coating put on immediately and also have PPF installed on day 1. I did the PPF on my last one and it did keep the hood and front end from rock damage. Didn't help the rock rash from dragging the bumper over granite and sandstone.

 

[dylans]

For sale soon...

2013 Trail, low mileage, meticulously maintained, a few mods with extras.

I'm liking this new 4Runner.

 

[GT0neX]

I like it, but my late model 5G has so far exceeded all my expectations that I don't feel this is worth trading up for. Maybe eventually as an addition. It will be a year or two before prices or interest rates will even be remotely reasonable too. Wishing all the new owners the best though!

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[young]

Where is the Off road trim? Hybrid suvs/trucks are a joke.

 

[westwind77]

I have been complaining for the last few years about Toyota being slow to release the 6th Gen, finally glad it is out.

That being said I am not so sure I am going to get one.

I am not a fan of most of the trim line exterior photos, however I do like how the Limited looks.

As for the interior the current 5th gen looks more upscale and refined than the incoming 6th gen. I know I am not buying a 'luxury' vehicle but they went a bit overboard and masculine with the new 6th gen. Where I am I would say there are more women driving these than men, which could hurt the females sales with this new interior. I will hold my final judgement for seeing it in person though.

Seems like those of us who want a 3rd row will be unable to get the more powerful hybrid model, which honestly was a huge disappointment for me as I was planning on getting the 3rd row.

Even if I did not get the 3rd row the i-force cuts down on cargo space, how much is yet TBD though.

I like that it is wider and longer, but I will not accept a reduction in cargo space from the 5th gen.

Sadly Toyota has let me down, personally. I was dead set to get the new Sequoia but when they released the train wreck of a cargo area that went away, and now a bit with the new 4R as well.

I know some people love this new gen, some may not - I am not sure what to do now though.

It is time to replace mine this year. Options are:

'24 Limited 4R
'24/'25 Tahoe LT
'25 Limited 4R

I really am torn, which I could have been more excited and happy by what was released, but I'm not.

Just my thoughts and opinions, does not mean anyone has to agree with them, just how I view it.

 

[qs933]

Second thought:

Where is the PHEV model?? The hybrid doesn't have enough juice to make a good tow vehicle up mountain passes. PHEV battery size fixes that. And it could be great for local EV use.

Judging from the space just the 1.87-kWh battery takes up, I'm not optimistic of a PHEV version coming soon unless/until battery tech greatly improves. My RAV4 Prime has an 18.1 kWh battery. I'd imagine a larger battery would be desirable for a larger vehicle like the 4Runner.

 

[mnofpeace]

My 2 cents...i dont dislike it. i like the styling, i like the modernization of it. The tech, meh...i like driving a car, not a cell phone...the iForce will have to show us all if its as bullet proof as the V6 has been.

I am with others about the overlap of the 4Runner and the Land Cruiser. I have been of the mindset that my only upgrade-purchase would be an LC200/LX...seeing reviews of the new LC, ill give it a test drive at least. NOT sure what Toyota is doing having 3-4 models that all do very similar things. This new 4Runner, meh...i'd probably just go find a 20-24 TRD Pro model somewhere before buying it and know what im getting into.

But what do i know, im just a consumer.

And since the GX550 is out of my price point...my next vehicle will surely come from this list:

Toyota LC-depending on what my test drive experience is
Toyota LC200/LX...if i can find a low mileage model
Toyota T4R TRD Pro...because i trust it & know i would enjoy it

 

[Buckfever]

Nice walk through here.

My Next 4Runner!...2025 6th Gen Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter - YouTube

 

[TexasFunRunner]

WHY, did Toyota offer Adaptive Variable Suspension (AVS) on the new Tacoma but not carry that feature over to the new 4Runner or Land Cruiser? It seems very short sighted that it is only offered on the Tacoma within the triplets.

For the 90% of the time most of us are on pavement, those of us who enjoy improved on-road ride comfort or have a bad lower back are willing to pay for this option. I don't care what their rationale or logic was, for me personally, this is almost a non-negotiable must have feature.

 

[Blackwatch]

Nice walk through here.

My Next 4Runner!...2025 6th Gen Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter - YouTube

I have watched about 10 reviews of the new 4R on youtube and a few of the LC250 from Scotland. No one has anything bad to say about them, so they must be the perfect vehicle finally!
All joking aside it's nice to see the features etc but the fanboys get a bit sickening. I like TRD Jon but he seems to be cheering way too much. He made a few videos complaining about his Tundra then that went away quickly. I think Toyota basically tells them any bad press from you and you don't get invited to the next big reveal. These guys are Toyota's free marketing dept.

Untamed Motors never gets an invite because he's completely honest and unless he reaches Doug Demuro numbers he will never get one. David Chao on the other hand is either too annoying to invite or he really pissed off some people when he worked for Toyota because he's a nut. He guarantees the Tundra will be just as reliable as the V8 but won't address the issues and says 4Runner will be redesigned in 2023 because Toyota never misses their deadlines.

As far as the 6th gen goes, the Pro look pretty good in that mud colour. OT not too bad but looks like an extended 4th gen with a taco front end. I don't like that it gets the exact interior as the taco, it's way too big now and the interior space seems to have shrunk. The backseat legroom looks terrible and the roof to floor height in the back with the hybrid looks way too small. The window is too raked

The LC250 looks so much better and won't be much different in price.

 

[thatoneguy]

Where is the Off road trim? Hybrid suvs/trucks are a joke.

Says who? You? Don't buy one, more supply for everyone else. Hating on 465 lb-ft of torque and 27mpg on the highway seems like it would take some well-rehearsed mental gymnastics.

Toyota shoves in something with more torque than any V8 they've ever made, with better MPG than any truck 4cyl they've ever made, with well-established Toyota hybrid reliability, and I love how there's still something to complain about. Maybe with nothing to back it up, but the complaining can happen!

 

[thatoneguy]

Second thought:

Where is the PHEV model?? The hybrid doesn't have enough juice to make a good tow vehicle up mountain passes. PHEV battery size fixes that. And it could be great for local EV use.

As someone who loves many of the EVs currently on the market, I have a pure, wholesome hate for PHEVs, although I hate the Toyota ones less. I don't feel like paying more and hauling around extra battery weight for a dinky little city range, especially in a truck. The Wrangler 4XE is probably my most hated modern 4x4 vehicle, while I love the regular version. PHEVs seem like a weird stopgap for people that want an EV but still let range anxiety into their head. If I wanted a PHEV, I would just get real and get a proper EV. Offroad EVs aren't to my standards and price goals yet, so I'll just happily buy gassers/hybrids for another while yet.

Like you say, they'd probably have to size a PHEV battery at 25-30kWh for a 4Runner PHEV. That becomes a porky sucker; the regular 2kWh hybrid is probably already going to hit 5000 lbs.

 

[young]

As someone who loves many of the EVs currently on the market, I have a pure, wholesome hate for PHEVs, although I hate the Toyota ones less. I don't feel like paying more and hauling around extra battery weight for a dinky little city range, especially in a truck. The Wrangler 4XE is probably my most hated modern 4x4 vehicle, while I love the regular version. PHEVs seem like a weird stopgap for people that want an EV but still let range anxiety into their head. If I wanted a PHEV, I would just get real and get a proper EV. Offroad EVs aren't to my standards and price goals yet, so I'll just happily buy gassers/hybrids for another while yet.

Like you say, they'd probably have to size a PHEV battery at 25-30kWh for a 4Runner PHEV. That becomes a porky sucker; the regular 2kWh hybrid is probably already going to hit 5000 lbs.

I want 100% burning engines in trucks. Toyota lures idiots with candies and throws them into hybrid stuff. Originally, hybrid system was made for better mpg and hybrid cars could have a pint tank whatever they could stuff in. Toyota wants to expand it to more models.