Oil change (keep reading please...)

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So I just did a oil change on my 2003 SR5 V8.

I got the oil (a 5 quart jug and a single quart to make 6) but I got home, put it on the ramps and drained the oil. When I was getting ready to re fill it I realized I got a 5 quart jug of 5W-20 and the single is 5W-30. Is it okay to mix them? They are made my the same company but I hope
It's not going to mess anything up!
 
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1. Oil will mix, and it will blend.
2. Mixing, trying to stay with same companies, as you want to do. Companies add their own blend of additives.

3. Don't do it. If you had it reversed, say 5 quarts of 5w-30 and 1 quart 5w-20, I would be inclined to say you should be OK; but in this scenario a majority of the oil and therefore the basic rating is too low for spec.

It is getting into warm weather. You want warm protection. Don't risk it, take it back and exchange it for the right weight.
 
Kinda sounds like he already did it....

You need to drain that oil and start from scratch. 40 bucks of oil isn't worth risking your engine.
 
5w20 and 5w-30 is very close, you can run it just fine, don`t waste it. with 20% 5w 30 your oil is 5w-22righ now. I bet you can run it with no harm to your engine. what kind of oil is that?
 
You bet? I don't know.... internet advice should always err on the side of caution. If it hurts his engine, will the "hive" mind pay for a replacement?

No. I really think we should support the cautious decision, and that is to follow Toyota engineers spec. 0w-30 is in warm weather, 30. Makes no difference. 5w-20 is 20, which is below spec.

Feel free to run it in your own... but I think we should support a safe decision for him. This is a new vehicle to him and we should help him keep it.

My vote is to not risk your engine.
 
You bet? I don't know.... internet advice should always err on the side of caution. If it hurts his engine, will the "hive" mind pay for a replacement?

No. I really think we should support the cautious decision, and that is to follow Toyota engineers spec. 0w-30 is in warm weather, 30. Makes no difference. 5w-20 is 20, which is below spec.

Feel free to run it in your own... but I think we should support a safe decision for him. This is a new vehicle to him and we should help him keep it.

My vote is to not risk your engine.

Absolutly Some Of the Best advise Ive Seen In a Long Time ...Posts Like this Is what makes these forums So Good for Newbs or old timers. Nice of you to help drive home the practical solution.:trophy:
 
you guys are too much, this isnt a top fuel race car engine that will explode if you dont run the recommended oil. 5w20 isnt going to harm your engine at all.
 
So I just did a oil change on my 2003 SR5 V8.

I got the oil (a 5 quart jug and a single quart to make 6) but I got home, put it on the ramps and drained the oil. When I was getting ready to re fill it I realized I got a 5 quart jug of 5W-20 and the single is 5W-30. Is it okay to mix them? They are made my the same company but I hope
It's not going to mess anything up!

Straight Dope Message Board

Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Reasons for/against 5W20 versus 5W30?

SAE 5w-20 vs SAE 5w-30? - Yahoo! Answers

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1518706
 
Thanks for all the suggestions!

I really dont want to harm the engine (love this truck too damn much!)

I don't have the money to buy another $40 worth of oil.

I don't think I will hurt it at all but I'll still see if I can borrow some money to get the right stuff in, witch sucks because I wasted the oil and the money.

I might also leave it in there (it's conventional) so it would only be in there for 3,000 miles.

Lube is lube right?
 
I love these oil thread...... if you want solid advice on oil then go to Bob Is The Oil Guy - Forums powered by UBB.threads™ Bobistheoilguy forums. Mixing these oils is the equivalent of mixing 1% milk and 2% milk in your morning cheerios. Also I believe most Toyota dealerships are using 5w-20 in the 4.7 now.

If it was my 4R I would just run what you have for 5k miles and change to 5w-30.
 
I love these oil thread...... if you want solid advice on oil then go to Bob Is The Oil Guy - Forums powered by UBB.threads™ Bobistheoilguy forums. Mixing these oils is the equivalent of mixing 1% milk and 2% milk in your morning cheerios. Also I believe most Toyota dealerships are using 5w-20 in the 4.7 now.

If it was my 4R I would just run what you have for 5k miles and change to 5w-30.

I'm on kinda worried. It's oil and it's still going to lube everything.

Thank for reassuring me, because I just can't bring myself to waste the oil and money when it's brand new oil.
 
I'm going to go with: You will have no problems what so ever using 5W30 over 5W20 or vice versa. Yes, the auto mfg'er spec'd 5W30 but running a slightly different grade (i.e., a bump to 5W20) is not going to harm your engine. A real concern for damaging the engine would be running 3 quarts instead of 5+ quarts for some period of time. If you're still unconfortable about the viscosity ratings, then do a short mileage oil change (change at 2000 instead of 3000 miles)

Motor Oil Viscosity
MULTI-VISCOSITY MOTOR OILS

Most modern motor oils are formulated from various grades of oil so the oil will have the best characteristics of both thick and thin viscosity oils. Multi-viscosity oils flow well at low temperature for easier starting yet retain enough thickness and film strength at high temperature to provide adequate film strength and lubrication.

A thin oil such as a straight SAE 10W oil designed for cold weather use would probably not provide adequate lubrication for hot weather, high speed driving. Likewise, a thicker high temperature oil such as SAE 30 or 40 would probably become so stiff at sub-zero temperatures the engine might not crank fast enough to start.

Multi-viscosity grade oils have a wide viscosity range which is indicated by a two-number rating. Popular multi-viscosity grades today include 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30, 10W-30, 10W-40 and 20W-50. The first number with the "W" refers to the oil's cold temperature viscosity rating, while the second number refers to the oil's high temperature viscosity rating.

Note: Motor oils that have a wider range viscosity rating such a 5W-30, 5W-40 and 0W-40 are blended with more base stocks and additives. Because of this, it may be harder for a wider range oil to remain in grade as the miles accumulate (which is why GM does NOT recommend using 10W-40 motor oil. They say it breaks down too quickly and does not say in grade as long as 10W-30 or 5W-30. Also, an oil with a lower winter rating like 0W-20 or 5W-20 will contain a higher percentage of thinner base stock oil (which is typically a synthetic oil). This requires more viscosity improver additive to achieve a the same high temperature rating as a 10W-30, 10W-40 or straight 30 or 40 weight oil.
 
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To be fair, and in the interest of disclosure; Toyota released a TSB in 2006 that stated all 2006 and above Toyota vehicles were OK to use 5w20 or 0w20, depending.

My understanding was that this was specifically stated for the V8 UZ engine in 2006 and beyond engines. There were minor changes made between 2003 and 2006, the introduction of the VVT-i being the biggie. I don't know how this, in practical terms, impacts the operation of the engine in relation to oil weight.



I have linked it here:
http://www.chrysanindustries.com/pdf/products/toyota_tsb071002.pdf


Who knows... I still like to err on caution when dispensing internet opinions. We are not the ones fronting the bill or calling the tow truck when stuff breaks. I would rather not have that on my conscience.
 
It'll be fine. Change it when you have the money again if you're worried about it.

Toyota engineers also have specs for tires, suspension, exhaust and air filters that most have us have changed too.
 

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