Options, worhtwhile vs worthless?

Rdfish1

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I have decided on a 2015 pearl white limited 4x4 and have searched for in stock and in transit inventory. My interest is to keep it as basic as possible, nothing added but the sliding cargo tray in the rear, a 350$ add plus the added cost of the premium color. However, it is hard to find just the way i want it so have a couple of questions.

Is the clear coat on the doors for 200$ Do anything?
Is the toyoguard elite for 700$ of value, what is it?
Excluding the 3rd row seats gives me a few more inches of storage plus savings of 1300$ but will this have a meaningful effect on resale value if i exclude third row?

Im trying to hold options down to control costs but is there a major option that i should add or be looking for? The limited is well equipped but not sure if i a, missing something important.
 
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You're gonna get lots of varying opinions I'm sure.

I don't think NOT having the 3rd row is going to hurt resale. Most people that look at the 4Runners with the 3rd row quickly realize it's too small to be useful and of course dramatically decreases cargo capacity. Those that need three rows of seating will likely also need the requisite storage capacity and will end up with a bigger vehicle overall.

I would do some research and soul-searching on the rear slide out tray. There's quite a few people that wish they hadn't got it. It's not cheap, decreases cargo capacity (height), and people don't like how things fall off the sides and inevitably become trapped or wedged in the cracks. It's a cool option and idea for some, and some like it and use it well; just do some research. Try the custom google search bar at the top of the forum.

I would NOT get the OEM remote start. I would not get floor mats (and would buy Husky or Weathertechs instead). Depending on your goals, I probably wouldn't get any of the factory-available running boards either. Other than that, there's not a lot of things the Limited doesn't come with standard.

Good luck!
 
Already one great and helpful post, thank you. Did not know about the sliding cargo rack in the rear, but it seems i must get the slider or 3rd row, i have not found a single limited without one or the other, at least i. My color and area to include 100 miles.
 
Already one great and helpful post, thank you. Did not know about the sliding cargo rack in the rear, but it seems i must get the slider or 3rd row, i have not found a single limited without one or the other, at least i. My color and area to include 100 miles.

That's interesting. I wasn't looking at limited's when I bought mine so I have no idea what the choices are. If you're pretty particular, don't be afraid to expand your search radius. I ended up going out of state and about 700 miles to get what I wanted as it wasn't available locally. Looking back, I'm glad I did and it was worth the cheap flight and the adventure driving back.
 
Already one great and helpful post, thank you. Did not know about the sliding cargo rack in the rear, but it seems i must get the slider or 3rd row, i have not found a single limited without one or the other, at least i. My color and area to include 100 miles.

The sliding tray is awesome. Love mine!
 
Dealers in Colorado add the "Colorado" package. While it was included in my Trail Premium, it may be something you might want since the front end of the 4R is sooo aerodynamic. Clear Bra on the front, hood, and rear mirrors... Also, they put 3M window tint all around to match.
 
There are going to be a lot of different options out there. Depending on the area, the way dealerships order can change the availability of options you may want/ do not want.

My advice. Find the one that suits you the best, research the invoice pricing on Truecar, Edmonds, etc. and stick with a number that you like. There are plenty of ways to accomplish this, especially pitting 2 dealers against each other for the same 4runner.

The extra Toyoguard elite, probably isn't worth it, if it isn't worth it to you. I have no idea what the extra clear coat does. As far as 3rd row, that will be a factor that may or may not help you in the long run. For me, the 3rd row was the only way to go, and it does NOT limit cargo space anymore than the slide out tray. The extra 2 inches of raised flooring is not noticeable unless you haul large items on a consistent basis. Otherwise you will never notice it was there. If you have family that may take advantage of the 3rd row, especially children, it may be an option that is used a few times a year, if that, but is worth its weight in gold when using it. It will not hurt in the long run, as when you sell the vehicle, the cargo space looks massive when they are down, and no one will argue that. The right buyer will either look past the 3rd row, when they are collapsed, or the right buyer will be pleasantly surprised knowing that option is there.

I am sure if the Limited is the model you want, then the options that are there will make you happy as is. Many items can be obtained aftermarket for cheaper, in most cases. (Bolt on items, floor mats, warranty).

As I stated, the best thing you can do is negotiate the hell out of the price, and use options that are already on the vehicle, that you do not want, as your weapon in negotiating the dealer to lower the price.
 
Up here in Canada, we don't get the option of many options if you go for the Limited trim.

I opted for the husky mats instead of the OEM rubber.

I went for the 3rd row. Coming for a LR3, I was getting pinched on space anyways. But, for me, we do make use of the extra seats from time to time and having the option was more important than the cargo space. Having said that, I know that I'll be shopping for a cargo rack/box this summer.
 
I don't know what the beef is with the OEM rubber...

I've had no problems with mine and I live in a snowy, icy, salt encrusted hell.
 
I have decided on a 2015 pearl white limited 4x4 and have searched for in stock and in transit inventory. My interest is to keep it as basic as possible, nothing added but the sliding cargo tray in the rear, a 350$ add plus the added cost of the premium color. However, it is hard to find just the way i want it so have a couple of questions.

Is the clear coat on the doors for 200$ Do anything?
Is the toyoguard elite for 700$ of value, what is it?
Excluding the 3rd row seats gives me a few more inches of storage plus savings of 1300$ but will this have a meaningful effect on resale value if i exclude third row?

Im trying to hold options down to control costs but is there a major option that i should add or be looking for? The limited is well equipped but not sure if i a, missing something important.


Rdfish1 -

The 4Runner is a great vehicle. The Pearl White is a great color. As far as toyogaurd elite -- I'd pass, unless you can convince the dealership to throw it in for free or get it for half or a third of the asking price.

Toyoguard offers the following
* Exterior Paint Sealant
* Toyo Guard Sealant Cleaner
* Interior Fabric Protector
* Undercoating/Sound Shield
* Glass Etch Theft Deterrent

I'm not trying to disparage anyone that got it, but my feeling is this ---

Paint Sealant -- my salesman tried to sell this as nanotechnology that fuses to the paint that keeps you from having to wax it. I can buy a lot of wax for 700.00 and I don't mind doing it myself. Besides, if this stuff actually worked as described, I'd hear more people singing its praises. Unless the factory paint is garbage, which isn't the case w/ the Toyota, as long as you wash it regularly I don't see why this is necessary.

Fabric protection -- buy a can of Scotchguard and do it yourself. No matter, what the dealership claims this stuff wears out and you'll have to reapply it at a later time -- using a can of Scotchguard, which you can buy at any big box store.

Undercoating/Sound Shield -- lots of discussion on this site regarding this stuff. In spite of living in a "salt-not-plow" region of the US, I decided against this as well. I saw this on consumer reports: “Rust is far less of a concern now,” says Mike Quincy, Automotive Analyst at Consumer Reports. “The types of metals and treatments have changed over the past 20 years and cars are well protected from rust right from the factory.” I figure if I have a lot of salt on my 4Runner, I'll run it through a touchless carwash.

Glass etching -- sounds neat. But if I'm thief, I'm taking this car and parting it out in an garage somewhere. I may not be able to sell the "select windows" that are etched, but I can still move the windows that didn't get etched. Those windows that did happen to be etched are getting shattered at the first opportunity. Now if they discreetly etched all the body panels, wheels, and other easy to move parts, I could see some value.

Additionally, I think Toyoguard comes w/ extended roadside assistance. I opted for an extended warranty and have the same benefit.

Ultimately, it's your call. I wouldn't fault you or criticize you if you did opt for the Toyoguard. It's your piece of mind you're ultimately satisfying. For me, I just didn't see the value.

Can't comment on the 3rd row seat, I didn't need one. But I can see the utility in having it as an option. It folds away when not in use, so you get the best of both worlds -- utility and functionality when needed and extra cargo space when not.
 
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Mine came with the 3rd row seat and after setting in it a few times I regretted it. Way to cramped for an adult and hard to get into the back seat. I removed the 3rd row seats and made a false floor for hidden cargo space and I love it now. All the normal crap I carry, jumper cables viair compressor, jumper battery, tools etc. are out of sight but readily accessible if I need them. Here are some pictures. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/173756-my-3rd-seat-removed-storage-pictures.html
 
I have decided on a 2015 pearl white limited 4x4 and have searched for in stock and in transit inventory. My interest is to keep it as basic as possible, nothing added but the sliding cargo tray in the rear, a 350$ add plus the added cost of the premium color. However, it is hard to find just the way i want it so have a couple of questions.

Is the clear coat on the doors for 200$ Do anything?
Is the toyoguard elite for 700$ of value, what is it?
Excluding the 3rd row seats gives me a few more inches of storage plus savings of 1300$ but will this have a meaningful effect on resale value if i exclude third row?

Im trying to hold options down to control costs but is there a major option that i should add or be looking for? The limited is well equipped but not sure if i a, missing something important.

I had the opposite problem trying to find mine. I wanted the sliding cargo tray and nothing else, but everything around here had either the 3rd row seats and/or the automatic running boards. I tried "ordering" one but after 5 weeks the dealer wasn't able to get a allocation of one and given the time to get it once they did get the allocation, it was going to be 10 - 12 more weeks minimum. So I decided to skip the sliding rear cargo deck and get one with no options. There was one Nautical Blue/Beige without either of the three options in northern California.

For me, the cargo space was more important than the 3rd row seats that I'd never use and I'm putting sliders on so the automatic running boards would be a waste of money.

I think everything else is a "port installed" option and all of those are available as accessories. Probably cheaper too if you shop around. I've got a few things on-order like the roof rail cross bars.
 
Mine came with the 3rd row seat and after setting in it a few times I regretted it. Way to cramped for an adult and hard to get into the back seat. I removed the 3rd row seats and made a false floor for hidden cargo space and I love it now.

I agree, I've had probably three friends sit back there and they say it is unbearable, and after looking at it I could imagine. 4 inches max on leg room is my guess. I will eventually do the false floor mod, it's more practical.
 
For my 2015 SR5

It has a Toyota clear paint protection sticker which as far as I can see isn't any thing special about the paint.

I bought the rubber sliding shelf cover from Toyota. It has a raised 3/4" lip around it to contain spills and stuff.

I also the Toyota bug deflector.

I wish they placed that clear plastic film like on the door edges and handle recesses on the front of the hood. I wouldn't have installed the bug deflector.
 
Do you have kids?

What sort of kids would fit in the back? Small kids.

Do you know what small kids do when they are in the third row? Fall asleep on the way home.

Have you ever tried to pick up a kid in a car seat in the third row of anything and not wake them up? It is HARD to do. And if you do wake them up, no nookie that night. And just imagine how much more difficult it is in a 4Runner over a Sienna or maybe a Honda Pilot (picking up your kid, not the nookie).

Fact is, someone that has that many kids either gets a minivan or maybe a GMC Suburban. They do not get a Limited 4Runner. Brats will ruin your leather some how too. Don't ask how, but they will figure it out.

Screw the third row and get what you want.
 
I don't think anybody actually said it, but you can't get 3rd row and a slider. I have the third row and use it from time to time. Generally my 6 year old and a friend who sit in booster seats (easy to take move around) use the back row. In a pinch, my 5'7" wife can sit back there for shorter trips. I like it.

Weathertechs are awesome, espcially if you live somewhere sloppy like I do.
 
Do you have kids?

What sort of kids would fit in the back? Small kids.

Do you know what small kids do when they are in the third row? Fall asleep on the way home.

Have you ever tried to pick up a kid in a car seat in the third row of anything and not wake them up? It is HARD to do. And if you do wake them up, no nookie that night. And just imagine how much more difficult it is in a 4Runner over a Sienna or maybe a Honda Pilot (picking up your kid, not the nookie).

Fact is, someone that has that many kids either gets a minivan or maybe a GMC Suburban. They do not get a Limited 4Runner. Brats will ruin your leather some how too. Don't ask how, but they will figure it out.

Screw the third row and get what you want.

My 5'2" wife rides back there every time my parents visit. Its ridiculously better than my parents trying to follow us into the city in a second car. For short trips around town its great.
 
The $200 door guard option is nothing more than a clear film/sticker that they put only on the very edge of the door with very minimal wrap around, and a small oval section under the door handle (to protect from finger rings). They have a video somewhere on YouTube of it being stuck-on at a dock. It is a big money maker option for the dealer from the looks of it.

I also pass on most 'paint protection products' since you can adequately protect the paint yourself by using a modern synthetic wax a few times a year.
 
depends on your dealer.

I ordered mine with only LE package and the options in my sig nothing extra (FE is required across all Toyotas)

no sliding tray
no 3rd row
no automatic running boards

compromise on the floor mats with the dealer, in case I backed out at the last minute he still had a viable vehicle to sell on the lot. I agreed on the floor mats since I needed time to order and get the WT's in since they officially didn't release the 2014 WT for the 4runner yet (had to wait 1-2 months to order).
 
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