Rear Brake springs help

[jasonjump]

I have done a total brake overhaul on my 2004 Runner SR5. The normal front caliper seize etc. So What I have done, New rotors front and rear, new pads front and rear, New calipers front. Well as we were taking over the passenger side rear rotor it was a *****! The brake shoes did not want to let her go and come off. Finally got it off but one of the pins with a spring assembly was flopping lose that held the brake shoe where it's suppose to stay. My question, is do I need to pull the hub to get to the spring assembly to make it functional again, or is there a trick to working on the back drum area of this horrid design? I have searched all over and can't find a diagram for anything on the drum area/adjustment etc. Thanks anyone...

 

[rmstucky]

Need some help!

I also have this issue. One side was just fine, The left side i have the Shoe Hold-Down Spring cup pop off the Shoe Hold-Down Spring Pin.... How the heck can i get this back together so i can finish changing my brake pads and rotors?????
Any help would be greatly appreciate.

 

[corradovrt]

they are a pain in the ass. i had to do them a few weeks ago when i did rear bearings on a gx 470

the best way to do it is install the pin and keep it in place with your finger from the back, put the back plate and spring on the pin and use needle nose pliers to compress the spring as much as possible while also using them to grip the pin as tightly as possible. this will hold everything in place and give you some some free space on the pin while you try to get the retaining plate on. it is a huge pain in the ass and never goes on first try

 

[gm350reratliff]

Yep, these are a pain but I found the easiest way was to use a small set of needle nose pliers that were flared out a little at the end. Basically they could no longer work properly as needle nose pliers but were perfect for this task. There should be a hole on the hub that lines up with the spring retainer (on one side I had to remove some of the oil deflector (tin cone on the back side of hub) with a drill so the hole would completely line up). Take the spring and retainer and place it over the pin. With one hand holding the pin, the other hand with the pliers inserted through the hole in the hub, push the retainer and compress the spring. With the tips of the pliers seated in the detents in the retainer, you should be able to rotate the retainer so it lines up with the pin. When the pin is through the retainer, rotate the retainer 90 degrees to seat the pin.

 

[Desert Fox]

I thought 4th Gen have disc brakes. Do some have drum breaks too or is that the parking brake?

 

[gm350reratliff]

I thought 4th Gen have disc brakes. Do some have drum breaks too or is that the parking brake?

It's the parking brake.

 

[Merkaba]

yeah I'm trying to put back on one of the springs and it's an awful pain.

 

[bbix333]

I used a flat head screw driver and a door panel popper tool (the metal one) to compress the spring and the screw driver to twist it to lock in place.

It is a huge PITA and took me a few days to get it done with many hours wasted. I'd rather pay the dealer/brake shop to do this next time.

 

[4Reak Show]

Snap-on Store

Fairly certain I would use this. It attaches to a 1/4” nut driver so you can slide it in from the side and then use the holes in the hub flange to attach to the nut driver. Compress, 1/4 turn and release.

You could probably get away with a correct sized socket now that I think of it.

 

[Zero0575]

I had this issue as well. My solution was to use tiny zip ties to compress the springs, and then I cut them off when I got everything back in place. It was a pain, but just took some patience and contorting of my fingers.