Rear Springs Complete Confusion

[Pastorcat]

I know. This topic has been beat to death. And I've read threads till my brain is drowning with data and I still don't know the right answer.

This is what I'm working with:

2016 Trail Premium KDSS
Bilstein 8112 front (received)
Bilstein 8100 rear (still waiting)
Desert use for astronomy runs in Cali. (No rock crawling)
Relocating to Michigan Upper Peninsula in 2022 (Fire roads, forest roads, lot's of snow and ice)
70% Daily driver

*Not installing steel bumpers
*Not installing a roof rack
*Not installing a roof tent
*Not an overland build

*Considering winch and hidden winch mount (maybe helpful in the UP in the winter).
*Considering aluminum skids (when traveling at speed over the desert I'd sure like some underbody protection)

Goal - 2.0" lift and leveled.
Plush but stable at highway speeds.
Plush over whoops (and speed bumps). Really tired of knocking my head up against the headliner.

Question: Which damn rear springs will help accomplish those goals? There are SO many brand and height choices! I'm dumfounded and downright lost. I've called (and emailed) shops and only gotten crickets in response. Some specific answers would be suuuper appreciated.

Thanks in advance! ~MjS~

 

[honda250xtitan]

wheelers t13 give 1.5" of lift and 12% increase in spring rate. its perfect for stock or minimal weight

 

[fkheath]

I know. This topic has been beat to death. And I've read threads till my brain is drowning with data and I still don't know the right answer.

This is what I'm working with:

2016 Trail Premium KDSS
Desert use for astronomy runs in Cali. (No rock crawling)
Relocating to Michigan Upper Peninsula in 2022 (Forest roads)
70% Daily driver

*Not installing steel bumpers
*Not installing a roof rack
*Not installing a roof tent
*Not an overland build

*Considering winch and hidden winch mount (maybe helpful in the UP in the winter).
*Considering aluminum skids (when traveling at speed over the desert I'd sure like some underbody protection)

Goal - 2.0" lift and leveled.
Plush but stable at highway speeds.
Plush over whoops (and speed bumps). Really tired of knocking my head up against the headliner.

Question: Which damn rear springs will help accomplish those goals? There are SO many brand and height choices! I'm dumfounded and downright lost. I've called (and emailed) shops and only gotten crickets in response. Some specific answers would be suuuper appreciated.

Thanks in advance! ~MjS~

Maybe my 2018 SR5 Premium is different, but I find the ride really good; much better than my Jeep JK. Thus, I kept the stock springs and shocks/struts.

You can't level with just rear springs, you have to do something on the front, for the front is lower than the rear by about 2". I went with the Rough Country leveling kit which is just spacers: raises the front about 2.5 inches and the rear 1". Thus, with the OEM springs and shocks, the ride doesn't change.

 

[Forgetful]

I bought the Wheeler's T13 spring for my rear. Not enthused with it.
Only got 1.2in of lift with a stock car. Added some cornfed spacers to get to 2in rear. Kings for rear shocks. The King coilovers in the front are an amazing combo in comparison.

Honestly if you want 2in of lift in the rear and to maintain a plush ride you're in trouble. 90% of the lift springs are much higher spring weight which will make the ride much less plush stock.

If you don't really need the lift id just keep stock. I've gone pretty darn fast stock, I've seen so many people spend money and time moding these to only hit forest roads which the vehicle excels at stock.
Or just buy the kings/fox 2.5 kit, Wheeler's T13+spacer or Dobinsons since I've heard a lot of good stuff and call it good.

 

[Pastorcat]

I'm

You can't level with just rear springs, you have to do something on the front, for the front is lower than the rear by about 2".

Yes. Understood. My 8112's were delivered this weekend (I forgot to mention that above. I'll edit to make it clear)

Waiting for 8100's for the rear.

But which springs, considering my usage and weight (notes about those are in the OP) would be best?

Dobinsons
Eibach
Wheelers
Bilstein
Toytech

And which height if I want 2" lift to level?

 

[fatkins]

I'm running 8112 front and icon2.5 on the rear with dobinson light duty springs. I have 33' tires, RCI full steal slides and a fridge. Will probably add an awing and probable skids. So pretty happy with the ride having switched from 5100 bilsteins all around. Planted on the freeway and not as jarring on woops here in central coastal Cali.

 

[hallcs]

Exitoffroad

Talk to Mike over at Exitoffroad and he will steer you in the right direction. I got the Dobinsons springs and love them.

 

[honda250xtitan]

I'm


Yes. Understood. My 8112's were delivered this weekend (I forgot to mention that above. I'll edit to make it clear)

Waiting for 8100's for the rear.

But which springs, considering my usage and weight (notes about those are in the OP) would be best?

Dobinsons
Eibach
Wheelers
Bilstein
Toytech

And which height if I want 2" lift to level?

2" front height will make the front and rear level. i'd add 1-1.5" to the rear to make it look less asz heavy. remember, a loaded ice chest will make it sag

 

[ahtoxa11]

I bought the Wheeler's T13 spring for my rear. Not enthused with it.
Only got 1.2in of lift with a stock car. Added some cornfed spacers to get to 2in rear. Kings for rear shocks. The King coilovers in the front are an amazing combo in comparison.

Honestly if you want 2in of lift in the rear and to maintain a plush ride you're in trouble. 90% of the lift springs are much higher spring weight which will make the ride much less plush stock.

If you don't really need the lift id just keep stock. I've gone pretty darn fast stock, I've seen so many people spend money and time moding these to only hit forest roads which the vehicle excels at stock.
Or just buy the kings/fox 2.5 kit, Wheeler's T13+spacer or Dobinsons since I've heard a lot of good stuff and call it good.

I am running Superflex 2.0 rear springs, which are about the same 10-12% over stock with King shocks. Very plush, even empty. Some have reported similar setups and a good bit of harshness, but I don't have that. My rear Kings were tuned by Accutune before being installed, so this may be why.