Rough/Jerky engine and bad accel when not 100% warmed up

fishrod

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Hi,

I have an issue with my 4runner, 94 3.0 Manual. When driving it around in the cooler weather, it seems to jerk/jump and struggle a bit between 2000 - 3000 rpm. Its almost as if its misfiring or something, or sort of like that feeling you get when you run out of gas, only not as bad. If you back off the accelerator and re-apply slowly you can 'nurse' it along so it doesnt jerk/jump.

Its 100% got to do with the car/engine being cold and not fully warmed up.

When i leave work and its been out in the cold (anywhere from -5C to -30C) I have to warm it up for a good 10 mins before driving off.

If I leave from home, where the garage is heated (around +20C) I only have to warm it up for a couple mins before its drivable and doesnt do the jerky/jumpy thing. BUT if i drive it straight away without letting it warm up at all, it still does it, but not as bad.

So what could it be? Its just had a tune up, new plugs, leads, rotor and ditributor. As well as air filter and oil filter.

Fuel pump/filter? Would this fix itself after warming up a bit? Could the fuel lines be a little blocked due to the cold weather? Could the fuel filter be blocked? (that was never changed)

Spark Timing? Possible that it still could be the plugs? It did get a little better after the tune up, but had since gone back to its old problems.

Exhaust something, CatCon perhaps? Would this be something that could be 'clogged' when cold but clear itself out after 15 mins operation?

Otherwise the car runs fine, gets about 450kms per tank (65L) from a mix of town and highway (mountain) driving. No rotten egg smell, no 'cotton candy' smell coming from the exhaust. Starts first time, idles fine and isnt rough.

Cant think of anything else?
 
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fishrod said:
Hi,

I have an issue with my 4runner, 94 3.0 Manual. When driving it around in the cooler weather, it seems to jerk/jump and struggle a bit between 2000 - 3000 rpm. Its almost as if its misfiring or something, or sort of like that feeling you get when you run out of gas, only not as bad. If you back off the accelerator and re-apply slowly you can 'nurse' it along so it doesnt jerk/jump.

Its 100% got to do with the car/engine being cold and not fully warmed up.

When i leave work and its been out in the cold (anywhere from -5C to -30C) I have to warm it up for a good 10 mins before driving off.

If I leave from home, where the garage is heated (around +20C) I only have to warm it up for a couple mins before its drivable and doesnt do the jerky/jumpy thing. BUT if i drive it straight away without letting it warm up at all, it still does it, but not as bad.

So what could it be? Its just had a tune up, new plugs, leads, rotor and ditributor. As well as air filter and oil filter.

Fuel pump/filter? Would this fix itself after warming up a bit? Could the fuel lines be a little blocked due to the cold weather? Could the fuel filter be blocked? (that was never changed)

Spark Timing? Possible that it still could be the plugs? It did get a little better after the tune up, but had since gone back to its old problems.

Exhaust something, CatCon perhaps? Would this be something that could be 'clogged' when cold but clear itself out after 15 mins operation?

Otherwise the car runs fine, gets about 450kms per tank (65L) from a mix of town and highway (mountain) driving. No rotten egg smell, no 'cotton candy' smell coming from the exhaust. Starts first time, idles fine and isnt rough.

Cant think of anything else?

I'd be looking at the coolant temperature sensor and the air temp sensor (it may be the MAF that handles that function). It sounds like the fuel injection is a bit confused about how cold it really is outside...

That advice is very generic. I have no 2nd gen experience specifically so take it with a grain of salt.

:cheers:
 
Thanks ill get my buddy to check it out.
Though the 2nd gen's didnt have a MAF so i guess it cant be that!
 
fishrod said:
Thanks ill get my buddy to check it out.
Though the 2nd gen's didnt have a MAF so i guess it cant be that!

Ok, no MAF means there has to be a some other intake air temp sensor.

I have stumbled (pardon the pun:lmao: ) on to a couple of cases where one or both temp sensors were old and tired but not bad enough to throw a code. The result was similar to what you described.

After a thorough checkout, if no other problems were found, I might throw a couple of temp sensors at it.

Good luck!

:cheers:
 
If its a 94 4runner with the 3vze then it has an afm not maf. Clean inside the afm with maf cleaner from your local auto parts store then put it back together a dirty afm will do funny things.
 

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