Sidewall damage question

[DannyLlama]

This happened during my last Anza Borrego desert... Pictures may not be too clear. Essentially, i noticed that I had side wall damage on my driver tire after the day trip. Luckily not enough to puncture the tube. the tread is even still attached.

I have an LE with full time 4WD, so I may have to replace all four tires if I need to swap this out ... what ya'll think about leaving it vs. swapping it out.. should I be concerned for my next trip?

 

[TfourR]

I can't tell from the pic but is it down to the cords? If not you're good.

 

[johnbt]

Tube? You put tubes in your tires?

Anyway, every chunk you knock out of a tire is one less layer of rubber to protect it the next time. Your call.

 

[wanderMT]

tube??

I would move to back and keep close eye for bulging and probably not drive over 70.

 

[catrains]

if the side wall is flat not bulged out should not be a problem.

if it is out then should be replaced

 

[Tisoy281]

So, if I ever have to change out a tire on my LE 4wd, I have to change ALL of them out? I had no clue... Time to **** up a tire so I can tell my old lady I need new ones...

 

[delloro]

Keep it, but keep an eye on it.

OTOH if you get new tires, you will have good offroad spares.

 

[DannyLlama]

Tube? You put tubes in your tires?

This was really a test to identify the type A crowd on this forum. lol

tube??
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WTH is it called? the part under the rubber? Not a tire knowledge expert here.

Thanks for all the feedback. No bulging. I have driven over 70 plenty, after. It happened about a month ago and it seems fine. I can however, very slightly peel it, but dont want to keep doing that and make it worse.

 

[4Running Daily]

This was really a test to identify the type A crowd on this forum. lol



WTH is it called? the part under the rubber? Not a tire knowledge expert here.

Thanks for all the feedback. No bulging. I have driven over 70 plenty, after. It happened about a month ago and it seems fine. I can however, very slightly peel it, but dont want to keep doing that and make it worse.

Ya there is no tube in your tire. Peel is back and see what you can see. If it's all rubber, leave it. It's fine. If not, replace asap.


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[johnbt]

https://tireguides.com/TireTips/TireDocument/14

#5, 6, 7, 8

I didn't know the precise names either. I just called it the body or "Is it down to the cords yet?"

Some people put tubes in radial tires, but most places won't do it for you.

AWD vehicles - like Subarus - need the tires to be the same diameter to keep the AWD system functioning and healthy. I've read about shops that will shave a new tire down to match the 3 worn ones so you don't have to buy 4 new ones.

 

[catrains]

if the rubber has a flap put some adhesive on it .. keep the cord clean sealed .

long time ago a had a slit in side wall but did not effect tire cords . covered the cut .

 

[Tisoy281]

So... If I wanted to intentionally screw up a sidewall so I can tell my old lady I need new tires, what would be the best way to go about doing this without damaging my truck?

Oh, and asking for a friend...

 

[DannyLlama]

if the rubber has a flap put some adhesive on it .. keep the cord clean sealed .

long time ago a had a slit in side wall but did not effect tire cords . covered the cut .

What kind of adhesive do you recommend?

So... If I wanted to intentionally screw up a sidewall so I can tell my old lady I need new tires, what would be the best way to go about doing this without damaging my truck?

Oh, and asking for a friend...

LMAO

On that note.. I have always wondered how much thread is lost before I have to consider replacing all 4. Anyone know the math or formula to this?

 

[catrains]

dow 795 sealant use some alcohol to clean rubber then apply this sealer very flexible and sticks good. needs 24 hrs to be cured .

used in construction on metal/concrete/windows very good adhesion.

 

[DannyLlama]

dow 795 sealant use some alcohol to clean rubber then apply this sealer very flexible ans sticks good. needs 24 hrs to be cured .

used in construction on metal/concrete/windows very good adhesion.

What about extreme heat or cold climate impact? will the sealant crack and make matters worse?
Thanks btw

 

[delloro]

if the rubber has a flap put some adhesive on it .. keep the cord clean sealed .

long time ago a had a slit in side wall but did not effect tire cords . covered the cut .

I tried that with a patch and tire repair cement but it did not hold. The patch came loose.

 

[catrains]

What about extreme heat or cold climate impact? will the sealant crack and make matters worse?
Thanks btw

this product has huge temp ,adhesion, and expansion ability .

I should have mentioned use gloves and have some mineral spirit paint thinner to clean up any mess..

like I said takes 24 hrs to cure.
this is not some silicone type sealant this is very resistant to UV also ..

stays very soft never cracks ..

 

[E-ROCKER]

Hey Danny, from the pic you can barely see anything. Looks fine to me.
If it's not leaking it shouldn't be a problem.

If you're going to places like Anza Borrego always make sure you are carrying a spare.

 

[calcrc]

It looks fine until it will explode when you are driving on the highway.

Happened to me and YES, I did swap out all 4. Sold the 3 remaining tires and got a full new set.

Mine had that cut on the inside and when I noticed it I had the tires for a couple of months already and I made no fuss about it until one day when I was on my way to work and it went Boom.

It was Duratracs, it held up for a long time. Good tires but still sidewall is dangerous. Keep it as spare or for off road. Not Daily driver :/

 

[Antman]

[MENTION=75328]DannyLlama[/MENTION]

Danny, if it was just a trail rig I would say let it ride...but you have kids that ride in that 4Runner, man!


ANY sidewall damage on a tire is considered unrepairable. It's just not safe, That area flexes with every rotation, not to mention loads imposed under cornering and braking. Damage will cause more heat and it WILL fail.

Replace the tire, period. Any reputable tire shop will tell you that.

As for all of you telling him to drive on a damaged sidewall, shame on you.