Snatch strap.

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Donovan1

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I searched so don't bite my head off if I missed "THE" thread on this... :behindsofa:

I'm not planning on taking the T4R into anything too nuts. Not while it's the wife's car anyway... It is however going to be our winter snow trips vehicle we take kiddo with us too. If we do happen to get any snow in CA this year. I'd like to have a relatively simple recovery kit in the truck. I have the Glock entrenching tool for digging out and the usual gloves etc, and a tow strap. I want to replace that particular tow strap with a quality snatch strap or kinetic rope.

Queston: The general rule of thumb from what I understand is to have a rope with at least 3X the vehicle weight. I'd think that for just pulling out of a snow bank or ditch that should be sufficient. I don't see this rig in over the pumpkins in mud. So with the T4R coming in at about 6300, I'd want something about 18,900 lbs break strength.

Looking at this product:
Amazon.com: Bubba Rope (176655BKG) Renegade Rope, 3/4" x 20': Automotive
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PEVGXRO/ref=s9_dcbhz_bw_g60_i1_bs
And the shackles.
Bubba rope with 19K lbs break strength. Good? Bad? Indifferent?
All the math and questions above are genuine so if I'm way off somewhere let me know. I've always used tow straps or a winch to drag out a rig, or not gotten stuck.... I don't like mud.
 
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That should work fine for your stated goal. Don't forget a couple of good shackles to attach it with just in case you have to tie into a loop or your tow points.
 
I have the ARB 17,500 snatch strap which i have used for years in my land cruiser which is slightly heavier than my 4runner. Its about half the price of the bubba rope and easier to store if you ask me. I have pulled out dually pickups bogged down to the door sills in sand without a problem. I think you will be happy with either the bubba or arb, your choice. Just remember... They're only useful if you have someone to tug you out!


Amazon.com: ARB ARB705US 2-3/8" x 30' Recovery Strap - 17500 lbs Capacity: Automotive



P.S. you said "I don't like mud" but i think you meant IH8MUD!
 
After using many different styles, the kinetic ropes are amazing, and my personal favorite. I keep one in my 4runner, along with a regular snatch strap, tree saver strap, and 3 shackles.
 
BLACK-FL4RUNNER said:
After using many different styles, the kinetic ropes are amazing, and my personal favorite. I keep one in my 4runner, along with a regular snatch strap, tree saver strap, and 3 shackles.
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Do you think they are worth the extra cost over say an ARB for what should be fairly light use?
 
bjohnston115 said:
I have the ARB 17,500 snatch strap which i have used for years in my land cruiser which is slightly heavier than my 4runner. Its about half the price of the bubba rope and easier to store if you ask me. I have pulled out dually pickups bogged down to the door sills in sand without a problem. I think you will be happy with either the bubba or arb, your choice. Just remember... They're only useful if you have someone to tug you out!


Amazon.com: ARB ARB705US 2-3/8" x 30' Recovery Strap - 17500 lbs Capacity: Automotive



P.S. you said "I don't like mud" but i think you meant IH8MUD!
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I'm over there too (IH8MUD) but since I have a T4R I'm here mostly. The FJ board is a mess. :(

I assume if I'm just off the highway nosed into a snow bank, hopefully at least the CHP would come by... If not I'll employ a good sized black bear to hold one end. :)
 
3wbdriver said:
That should work fine for your stated goal. Don't forget a couple of good shackles to attach it with just in case you have to tie into a loop or your tow points.
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I second having good quality and adequately rated shackles. Other things I would consider are:
- Recover hitch insert for the rear (like THIS)
- Since the front has what some say are only good for tie downs, I bought a bridle which is really a 6ft tree saver to spread the load between the two points
- Damper so those shackles don't come flying through your window and injuring someone (like THIS)
 
You all don't really need such heavy rated straps.

I've been using a couple of 7000 pound rated straps for the past twenty years. Generally pulling my trail partners out of sand or snow stucks. Usually they have lost traction and are not really buried.

Think about it: The victim is perhaps hub deep in sand or snow and has four wheels spinning. All he needs is about two feet of jerk until his tires catch. If you are pulling him opposite of the direction he was traveling he already has a nice groove in the sand or snow so there is very little resistance from the snow/sand. The weight of his truck might be 5000 pounds BUT YOU ARE NOT LIFTING IT; you are dragging it so the strain on the strap is generally only a few hundred pounds.

Even if you are pulling up a 10% slope you are not pulling 5000 pounds; more like 1000 pounds.

Now if someone has buried themselves two feet deep into heavy mud = different story -> that doesn't happen often in Nevada.....
 
I have an ARB snatch strap and enjoyed it when I pulled out a Raptor in the dunes. Still mad at my son for not getting photos of a mid size suv pulling the big guy.
 
+1 more for the arb snatch strap. Have used 17000lb one for a while now and works great every time. Huge difference from a regular recovery strap
 
I have broken two 12k two ply 2' inch nylons, both had a significant amount of wear from usage and well poor care technique (wash the mud off, keep them out of the sun, don't let clumsy friends borrow them). I personally don't mind them breaking as much, it is far less catastrophic than a wire winch rope or other static line AND you can typically tie them back together and still get business done. Those were both with my toyota pickup. I opted for a 3", bigger fatter truck, dunno we'll see, I don't live in the mountains anymore so I do far less recovery now.

I do like the looks (and have heard good things about) Bubba ropes and particularly the soft shackles. Soft shackles seem like pretty good idea. I have never had a screw shackle fail (only a couple of winch hooks) and any flinging flying hunk of metal is generally no good unless it was intentional.
 
Times whatever on the ARB 17k snatch strap. I can't say if it's better than what else is on the market, but it'll do the job for sure. Don't ditch the static strap though - I carry a cheapo with hooks because sometimes there's not enough room for a kinetic recovery, and sometimes I'm recovering a vehicle that doesn't have anywhere to put a shackle. And sometimes you need to tow or be towed - snatch strap is no damned good for that.
 
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