Just realized this forum is what the FJ forum used to be. Dont know what happened over there but visited several threads and got nothing but pics of chicks butts bent over sticking in the camera, which is great but what does it have to do with Toyota's? I remember great technical discussions, fantastic trips being planned out, new ideas, it was awesome and now just kiddie porn, how far it has fallen. Hope that doesn't happen here. And by the way, you used to be able to criticize any and all freely at the fj forum, now the slightest critcism gets you banned for life instantly. What a great American institution the FJ forum has evolved into. Starting to wonder if the old schoolers grew up and bought 4 runners.