SR5 vs Off Road Premium

[fotorunner]

Currently looking to replace my 2000 T4R with a Gen 5. Looking at these two. I know the ORPremium has some additional stuff, a locker for one. But I'm wondering if there is a difference in the suspension between the two?

Any other thoughts on this comparison would be appreciated.

 

[AZ4Running]

Suspension is the same unless the ORP has KDSS then there are differences. I would say stay away from KDSS as it makes lifting more complicated. I would go with a ORP non KDSS together the locker and extras of the premium package.

 

[fotorunner]

Suspension is the same unless the ORP has KDSS then there are differences. I would say stay away from KDSS as it makes lifting more complicated. I would go with a ORP non KDSS together the locker and extras of the premium package.

I don't see KDSS on the specs but I will check on that.

 

[AZ4Running]

I don't see KDSS on the specs but I will check on that.

Might not be listed. Best to look for the KDSS sway bar.

 

[cheeser]

I think you should also consider how it’s going to be used to see if it’s really worth the difference between OR and SR5.

I had a 2016 Trail (not premium) with the locker and KDSS, and found I never used the locker on trails I explored (easy to mid level). I was looking for a new 2023 OR without KDSS, but went ahead with the SR5 as I never needed a locker and savings would help pay for the Dobinson or Bilstein lift I plan on installing. I didn’t want KDSS either as I plan on keeping this 4Runner for a while, and it’s a bit easier for me to install the lift myself.

 

[DAW89446]

I replaced an ‘02 Tacoma TRD with an ‘18 SR5. I used to do a lot of off roading and used the locker regularly. Now I am a senior and don’t do a lot of serious off roading. I do live on a gravel road in an isolated region where dirt and gravel roads outnumber paved ones; also with snow and ice for months. I gave my grandson the Tacoma. In hunting season, my main upland game route it is mostly class 3 and 4 trails and I kept the locker engaged on the entire route. But my SR5 runs the route handily with the ATRAC engaged. I have no regrets buying my 4Runner.

That said, if you want the locker, I think the TRD Premium is the best value of the 4Runner lineup. Other than the KDSS suspension and e-locker, all models share the same hardware and specs.

 

[gomiami]

If you have any need for a 3rd row, SR5P is the only option.

I originally had a deposit on a non-KDSS ORP for many months last year when inventory was very tight. I wasn't sure I would use the locker, crawl control or multi-terrain but I wanted to have them just in case.

All of the other differences between the two trims are cosmetic.

 

[curmudge1]

What's it worth?

I have a 2012 OG Trail, similar to the ORP...

How much $ is it worth to have the floor mounted 4WD shifter?
It just feels better than a dial, to me, more robust. You can search this forum for more comments.

I could do without the fake hood scoop which occasionally reflects a blinding glare into my eyes. And my Trail version had the sunroof, which is appealing in theory, but I very rarely use it, and it's just another thing to fail. Nor do I use the crawl control, traction control, e-locker, or even 4WD Lo at all often.

If I hadn't found my Trail when I did, and bought an SR5 instead, I believe I would be quite happy, not missing the small differences. But I'm very happy to have my TE, it suits me. You figure out what suits you.

 

[meridian]

Other than the stuff you can tell on the spec sheet, the transfer case lever uses slightly more space in the center console. But the bigger difference for me (although I was going SR5 anyway) is that the CRAWL/Multi-Terrain Select controls replace the sunglasses holder in the overhead console.

 

[Muskrat14]

I’d go ORP.

Better to have and not need than need and not have.


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[Mr_Bingley]

Depends as others have said on what you are needing/looking for. I didn't need 3rd row, and wanted the heated softex. Love my ORP to death

 

[Pedro367]

ORP is definitely the best bang for the buck. I wouldn't be unhappy in an SR5, but you definitely get what you pay for for only a couple grand more. Nicer wheels, hood scoop, locker, TRD badged softex, 4x4 shifter, etc. Better resale value too. I'd rather hardly use the locker than to not have it when I needed it.

 

[hoppyjr]

Another vote for ORP. The interior, heated seats, and functional bits make it the one to own, especially if considering keeping it long term.

 

[BlueHenT4R]

Don't underestimate the joy of a heated steering wheel (standard now on ORP) in winter either. I heart mine, now that the windows are frosted each morning.

 

[thatoneguy]

Don't underestimate the joy of a heated steering wheel (standard now on ORP) in winter either. I heart mine, now that the windows are frosted each morning.

Word. I love this feature on my 2023 ORP. I don't love the position of the button though, near the engine stop/start button. I am curious if the engine would turn off at speed if I accidentally push the stop/start button instead of the steering wheel heater button.

 

[BorderCat]

I have a 18' SR5 Premium and a 19' TRD OR Premium and as far as interior aesthetics there is very little difference (minus 4wd operations). Same heated seats, sunroof, lighting on side mirrors etc. But I will agree with other members that I would rather have options that I rarely use but know they are available when I need them.

 

[dandingo13]

Currently looking to replace my 2000 T4R with a Gen 5. Looking at these two. I know the ORPremium has some additional stuff, a locker for one. But I'm wondering if there is a difference in the suspension between the two?

Any other thoughts on this comparison would be appreciated.

I looked for a 4Runner for around 2 years and went back and forth on this a few times - SR5 Premium vs ORP. I really wanted an ORP but I'd get impatient and start considering the SR5P, convincing myself I'd never need a rear locker. Now, I don't plan on doing a ton of off roading.

I do have a friend, however, who doesn't do a ton either and has an SR5 and told me he's gotten stuck 2-3 times where a rear locker would've gotten out. This sort of solidified my decision, also considering that the ORP has multi terrain mode, better seats IMO and a few other things. I got a CPO and the price difference was right around $2k between an SR5P and and ORP.

This is the newest truck I've ever bought and I've worked my butt off building my business for the past 12 years so I wanted exactly what I wanted within reason. Heated seats, rear locker, etc. This vehicle is also my mobile workstation and do occasionally have to go on mild dirt roads. I was actually at a house on 10 acres last year after dark in the rain and my old '05 4Runner with 2WD almost got stuck. Happened at another job in the desert where I barely got out of the sand so I consider this somewhat of a necessity for me. We'll also be moving to a state that gets a lot of rain and a little snow

 

[Burn*]

Currently looking to replace my 2000 T4R with a Gen 5. Looking at these two. I know the ORPremium has some additional stuff, a locker for one. But I'm wondering if there is a difference in the suspension between the two?

Any other thoughts on this comparison would be appreciated.

I have the ORP w/KDSS and would definitely suggest to avoid the KDSS if you are an avid off-roader. It does make a nice difference driving on the road, but limits how you modify/lift in the future. That's something I'm dealing with now, trying to lift and moodify but it makes it much more complicated. I'd recommend the ORP if you need the locker w/o KDSS to make it more modifiable.

 

[Old Tanker]

I have not found KDSS to be a limitation off road. Installation of a 2 inch lift was not a problem. KDSS loosens up at low speeds in 4Lo (and you can install a KDSS switch to manually free up the system at other times). I would agree it is a waste if you intend to rebuild the entire front end geometry - upper and lower control arms etc - for a long travel set up. But even there, Total Chaos has an option for KDSS rigs.

This having been said, if I were to do it again I would go with an SR5. You still have 4x4, you still have A-TRAK, and you can install a rear air locker when you change over the gears and install an air locker in the front.

So - if you intend to run a relatively stock set up - upper end of the build being new Upper Control Arms, upgraded suspension, body mount chop, high clearance bumper - and you don't mind being pushed to buy a sunroof package - an ORP, with or without KDSS, isn't a bad choice. If you think your future includes portal axles, or a long travel setup, or you really want an air locker in the rear to match the aftermarket locker in front - start with the SR5 and you'll have a couple grand extra to put towards the $15K - $30K investment.

 

[fotorunner]

OP here,

Picked up an OR Premium today. No KDSS. It was very windy and cold and the heated seats are nice. That heated steering wheel switch is a bit awkward though.

I know T4R are classified as gutless but compared to my 2000 gen 3 it's got enough extra that I'll need to watch out or I'll add a ticket to the expense list.

It's white, Toyota must have bought white paint by the ship load because there's a lot of them around. But that will work for me, stays cooler in the summer. I'm sure I'll have additional questions in the future.

Thanks to everyone for your input, it made a difference in my decision.